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Discussion Forum Index --> Tax Questions --> Legal Fee deduction for discrimination settlement

RANGERS1968 (talk|edits) said:

21 April 2008
A settlement is made related to an employment discrimination claim that occurred after 2004. The case was settled in 2008. Are legal fees paid prior to 2008 deductible against the settlement amount?

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

21 April 2008
Profile please.

Taxman3132 (talk|edits) said:

21 April 2008
it goes on page 1 as an adjustment to income. i had the exact same thing happen to a client. it was w/ the adams case.

RANGERS1968 (talk|edits) said:

21 April 2008
But does it matter when the legal fees were paid? Do they have to be paid in 2008 to be deductible? I have researched how its handled on the tax return but have found nothing regarding prior year payments of legal fees.

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

22 April 2008
Prior year payments are deductible in the prior year on Sch A.

Snowbird (talk|edits) said:

22 April 2008
How can it be a prior year deduction?

IRC 62(a)

(20) Costs involving discrimination
       suits, etc.--Any deduction allowable under this chapter 
       for attorney fees and court costs paid by, or on 
       behalf of, the taxpayer in connection with any action 
       involving a claim of unlawful discrimination (as 
       defined in subsection (e)) or a claim of a violation of 
       subchapter III of chapter 37 of title 31, United States Code or 
       a claim made under section 1862(b)(3)(A) of the Social Security
       Act (42 U.S.C. 1395y(b)(3)(A)). The preceding sentence shall not 
       apply to any deduction in excess of the amount includible in the 
       taxpayer's gross income for the taxable year on account of a 
       judgment or settlement (whether by suit or agreement and whether 
       as lump sum or periodic payments) resulting from such claim.


Schedule A provides "Examples of Expenses You Cannot Deduct" "Legal expenses for personal matters that do not produce taxable income."

pub 525 page 29

The deduction you are claiming cannot be more than the amount of the judgment or settlement you are including in income for the tax year.


My impression is that no income ... no deduction. If I am wrong, I would like to know the reference since I gave someone advice that legal fees for a discrimination case where no settlement was paid were not deductable.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

22 April 2008
Pub 529 ....

UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATION CLAIMS LEGAL FEES. You may be able to deduct attorney fees and court costs for actions involving a claim of unlawful discrimination, a claim against the U. S. Government, or a claim made under section 1862(b)(3)(A) of the Social Security Act as an adjustment to income on Form 1040, line 35, rather than as a miscellaneous itemized deduction. See LEGAL EXPENSES under OTHER EXPENSES, later.

LEGAL EXPENSES 
 

You can usually deduct legal expenses that you incur in attempting to produce or collect taxable income or that you pay in connection with the determination, collection, or refund of any tax.

  You can also deduct legal expenses that are: 
 
    1. Related to either doing or keeping your job, such as those you 
    paid to defend yourself against criminal charges arising out of your 
    trade or business, 
 
    2. For tax advice related to a divorce if the bill specifies how much 
    is for tax advice and it is determined in a reasonable way, or 
 
    3. To collect taxable alimony. 
 
  You can deduct expenses of resolving tax issues relating to profit or 

loss from business (Schedule C or C-EZ), rentals or royalties (Schedule E), or farm income and expenses (Schedule F) on the appropriate schedule. You deduct expenses of resolving nonbusiness tax issues on Schedule A (Form 1040). See TAX PREPARATION FEES, earlier.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

22 April 2008
Was the payment a retainer?

RANGERS1968 (talk|edits) said:

22 April 2008
Snowbird...All the research I have done matches yours. The full aware is recorded as other income (including legal fees) and the legal fees are recorded as an AGI adjustment on line 36 listed as “UDC”. The only thing I am unclear about are legal fees paid prior to the settlement year deductible in the year of the settlement. I am assuming they are but I have not come across anything that states that and do legal fees include deposition costs related to the claim.