Discussion:HOH w/o claiming dependent
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| 22 January 2009 | |
| I have a divorced client that provides over 1/2 income for his (1) dependent and the dependent lives with him over half the year. The mother is filing single and claiming the their son as her dependent. Can my client (the Father) claim head of household but not claim him as a dependent? | |
| 22 January 2009 | |
| Yes. He should give her a 8332 and she will get CTC and he the rest of the credits if eligible. | |
| 22 January 2009 | |
| There is a blank next to Line 4 on Form 1040 for the child's name for cases such as this. | |
| 22 January 2009 | |
| Actually Line 4 of Form 1040 doesn't require the SSN, just the child's name, but your tax software program will ask for the SSN. | |
| 22 January 2009 | |
| One cannot claim HH without a dependent. Looks like the father has the right to claim the dependent and HH. If he has documentation that proves this, I would claim the dependent and include a statement in the return. If the mother also claims the dependent they will both receive a letter from the IRS. She is the one that will have a problem.
You also need to check the divorce custody agreement. If the mother has physical custody the father needs the 8332 from her to make the claim. | |
| January 22, 2009 | |
| Wrong, Taxea. The parent who has custody for more than six months can claim HOH status (and the child care credit and the earned income credit, if applicable). The other parent can claim the dependency exemption and the child tax credit and needs to attach Form 8332 or a copy of the divorce decree. This is an exception to the rule that you're required to claim the exemption when filing as HOH. You can find it in the instructions. Look for "Special Rule for Divorced or Separated Parents." Or see page 440, 21.7, in the 2009 J.K. Lasser book. | |
| 23 January 2009 | |
| IRS Notice 2006-86 says:
Except to the extent that § 152(e) applies, under § 152(c)(4), when more than one taxpayer claims a child as a qualifying child, the child is treated as the qualifying child of only one taxpayer for all the provisions that employ the uniform definition of a qualifying child (head of household filing status under § 2(b), the child and dependent care credit under § 21, the child tax credit under § 24, the earned income credit under § 32, the exclusion for dependent care assistance under § 129, and the dependency deduction under § 151). This rule is applied to these provisions as a group, rather on a section-by-section basis. If § 152(e) applies, a child may be treated as the qualifying child of two taxpayers. A noncustodial parent may claim the child as a qualifying child under § 152(e) only for purposes of the child tax credit under § 24 and the dependency deduction under § 151. However, the noncustodial parent may not claim the child as a qualifying child under § 152(e) in determining head of household filing status under § 2(b), the earned income credit under § 32, the child and dependent care credit under § 21, or the exclusion from income for dependent care assistance under § 129. Only the custodial parent (or other eligible taxpayer) may claim the child as a qualifying child for those purposes. | |
| 23 January 2009 | |
| I just dumb it down to where I can understand it. If "one cannot claim HH without a dependent," then what is the blank next to Line 4 on Form 1040 for? | |
| 23 January 2009 | |
| my bad...don't know what I was thinking! I bassed it on that if she is taking the dependent she is probably taking the HH status. Sorry taxea | |
| 23 January 2009 | |
| Sooner or later we all post something we wish we hadn't. Tiffaney taught us that. | |


