Discussion:Form 4684 Casualty loss

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 +{{ForumReplyPost|UserID=Www.cpa1.biz|Date=10 March 2009|Text=Almanacers,
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 +A client received insurance premiums for a flood last year on his dentistry office. He did get insurance premiums to take care of the new denistry chairs that he bought. I am having troubles on how I present this on the tax return and books.
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 +1) I am going to file the form 4684 showing the proceeds and basis (basis 0 since section 179); however, where do I report the new purchase of the chairs. The proceeds are around $130k. The chairs and other equipment related to the casualty cost around $130k. Do I show this cost of 130k on line 26 and then show the insurance proceeds on line 27 to make it a wash?
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 +2) Per books, do I debit cash from insurance proceeds and credit some type of account called insurance income.
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 +3) Per books, When the asset was bought for cash, do I debit some account called insurance expense?
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 +This will net the two out and the basis will remain the same as the previous assets.
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 +Please inform.
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 +Thanks,
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 +Bj}}

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Link1time (talk|edits) said:

11 January 2007
Have a client that has a gain from a casualty loss. He has elected to postpone the gain since he has replaced the building and paid more than the insurance proceeds.

My question: Do I need to file form 4684 and if so, my computer takes the gain automatically to form 4797. Do I need to override and put zero on from 4797 or just not file the form 4684? I will be attaching a statement describing the loss and the calculations for the gain and postponement.

Kathyt (talk|edits) said:

11 January 2007
Don't file 4684; just attach the statement

Www.cpa1.biz (talk|edits) said:

10 March 2009
Almanacers,

A client received insurance premiums for a flood last year on his dentistry office. He did get insurance premiums to take care of the new denistry chairs that he bought. I am having troubles on how I present this on the tax return and books.

1) I am going to file the form 4684 showing the proceeds and basis (basis 0 since section 179); however, where do I report the new purchase of the chairs. The proceeds are around $130k. The chairs and other equipment related to the casualty cost around $130k. Do I show this cost of 130k on line 26 and then show the insurance proceeds on line 27 to make it a wash?

2) Per books, do I debit cash from insurance proceeds and credit some type of account called insurance income.

3) Per books, When the asset was bought for cash, do I debit some account called insurance expense?

This will net the two out and the basis will remain the same as the previous assets.

Please inform.

Thanks,

Bj