Discussion:Forgiveness of Debt
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IheartTaxes (talk|edits) said: | 19 February 2008 |
| Hello All,
As I am sure the rest of you are doing, I am pretty busy preparing tax returns right now. Here is my questions about "Forgiving a debt" Situation: Taxpayer was issued a 1099-C (Cancellation of debt) in the amount of $8,000. Taxpayer claims that actual debt was only $5,000 Question: How would I handle this when preparing taxpayer's return? How would I approach it and what kind of backup documentation would I need? If anyone has experience with this kind of situation or any information that might help, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you | |
Wkstaxprep (talk|edits) said: | 19 February 2008 |
| First, i would see if i could get a corrected 1099-c from payer for $5,000.
If not, then i would report the $8,000 and then make a separate entry : "1099-C issued in error" $(3,000) | |
RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said: | 19 February 2008 |
| Sometime there is attorney fees, costs, maybe accrued interest included in the 1099-C, not just the remaining principal. | |
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| First review Section 108 to see if they have an exemption. | |
IheartTaxes (talk|edits) said: | 19 February 2008 |
| That's it? | |
IheartTaxes (talk|edits) said: | 19 February 2008 |
| Thank you all who replied | |
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| When an erroneous 1099 is issued the burden of proof is on the issuer to establish that it is correct. However, you must raise the issue. Do that on Line 21 as Wkstaxprep has suggested. | |
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| You've probably already considered this, but just in case, check to see if he was insolvent at the time of the debt forgiveness. If liabilites exceed assets by more than $8,000, no tax due. | |
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| How confident are we that the client is correct? Have we looked at the details? If t/p merely says its wrong, and payer tells IRS it's correct, there's no shift of burden of proof to the IRS. | |
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| The IRS will need proof or testimony from the payer if a case is litigated, affecting an appeal of the issue. Prior to that, IRS can do or not do what it wishes, like they always do! | |
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| I seem to remember that the law was changed after Portillo to conform to it. I may be misremembering. | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 19 February 2008 |
| I think Roy hits it on the head. Say you are running a loan sharking operation, you will add every charge you can conceive of to ther balance. I suspect the client borrowed 5K but forgot about the 'vig.' | |
| 19 February 2008 | |
| I well know about Portillo, and the statutory change. I'm talking practical aspects before we get to Appeals. Do you know what kind of inquiry IRS sends a 1099 payer after a t/p disputes it? What type of response will IRS accept? If a major bank says 1099-INT is "correct @ $XXX," does IRS run with that? I'm very curious about that! | |
