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Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
Where would you book stale dated payroll checks? My client has a total of about $1200 in old payroll checks that will most likely never clear the bank - some as old as two years, some more like six months. If I book them to payroll, then my numbers don't tie to the W-2's. Is that still the best place to go? I suspect that what has happened in some cases is that the checks were cashed by the restaurant, some of them are really small, less than a dollar as a result of tips and were most likely just lost.

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
That's funny, I was just discussing this with one of my staff today. We had reconciled the Wages to the W-3, and then she went in afterwards and voided stale-dated checks against Wages. So much for the reconciliation!

If Miscellaneous Expense is looking a little larger than "Miscellaneous", then you can stick them there.

In CA, what our clients are supposed to do is put a stop payment on those checks and then reissue them to the State as Unclaimed Property. Don't see this happen too often...in fact, never.

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
Actionbsns, please move this thread to the Accounting Forum

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
some states require you forward the money to their unclaimed property department - check your state laws - oops, PVV beat me to the punch on that one. What does that mean, beat me to the punch? did someone get punched? is there some punch to drink? Who knows?

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
someone is getting punchy, isn't he.

it's good thing we are preparing all of the late-March highly complex returns with no sleep and poor dieting. Who says man can't live on coffee and Girl Scout cookies, alone?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
oh, man, what I'd give for some girl scout cookies - thin mints and trefoils. Didn't have any girlscouts come by this year and I'm quite upset about the whole thing.

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
they are yummy, good for you, and 100% tax deductible to boot.  :)

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
check this out! i figured researching where the phrase "beat me to the punch" came from was a much better use of my time than preparing the next tax return.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Phrases-and-Sayings/Question88850.html

it's kinda anti-climactic, though. i thought it would have something to do with Jim Jones.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
Let's change the saying to "He beat me to the grape kool-aid." Now that's something I wouldn't be in a hurry for.

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
LOL!!!

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
Kevin - Exactly how much would you give for some Girl Scout cookies?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
18 free pulls at the slots at your favorite getaway spot.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
If you've got 'em better bolt the door shut cause I'm on a trefoil rampage right now. Only thing holding me back is a full box of Biscoff cookies (like they give you on Delta flights). We go through a box a month here - give them to clients along with their coffee or tea (served, of course, in Gorham china - can you believe I have clients that finish the coffee and actually turn the cup over to see what type of china I'm serving them out of?) Anyway, I have the clients fooled - they always say "OHHHH, that's GOOOOOOOD coffee." You know, kind of like Jackie Gleason used to say? They think it is good coffee because it is served in fine white china with a gold rim. I don't tell them it is just the free coffee they give you in hotels. On the road teaching tax updates all Fall I can accumulate some serious free coffee. Usually it's too nasty for me to drink, but not for my clients. LOL.

At the house I usually have Gevalia or - oh, I can't remember the name now, but it is 10 times better than Gevalia - comes in the mail and not cheap, but I'm worth it.

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
Darn! I was hoping you'd make it worth my while to forfeit the next month doing taxes and bring you some Girl Scout cookies.

I had to quit offering coffee during the first tax season in this office in my home (after I quit driving to clients' homes and moved into town in late 1985), because (1) I didn't have time to make it and serve clients, (2) clients aren't really here long enough to mess with it, and (3) not too many clients were interested in coffee.

I've been living on banana nut bread and, of course, bologna sandwiches and potato chips. One of these days, I won't be able to bite into another bologna sandwich and will stay away from them for about five years.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
I don't know how the title of this got changed, but the discussion sure went south. As for Girl Scout Cookies, I haven't seen one of those since I moved here. In fact I don't think I've seen a Girl Scout since I moved here. I'd love one of those chocolate covered, rolled in nuts with coconut all over it kind. No idea what they are called, but they are good. As for coffee, if I had an office large enough to contain a coffee pot, we make our own blend here. Not hard to do at Safeway, but it's really good. As for the china, it's Lomonosov. I think I really need to toddle off and work on this tax return. I have two really hard things to do over the next two days and this return is one of them. I'm putting the journal entry to Miscellaneous. PW and Kevin, I don't think we'll be sending these checks anywhere. A lot of them are actually less than fifty cents. Principal of materialty and all that.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
Put those checks in the kitty toward Girl Scout cookies. Actually, the checks in the kitty would be better than the cat food out there being recalled right now.

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
ROTFLMBO. That Subject Line has to be the best one I have seen here at TA. In about 15 years, somebody is gonna put a certain Keyword Search in and this thread is gonna be the #1 hit. They are gonna say, "What the hell! These people were high that night!"

BTW, my name is P.V.V. not PW. PW is what they used to call me in high school.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
Actionbsns, Hawaii does have an unclaimed property law, and those checks are required to be turned over to the state. Twice a year they release legal notices all of the unclaimed property. Even though this law covers just about all, if not all, businesses, generally only banks, credit unions and insurance companies follow it.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
Natalie, I appreciate the information and BTW, it's good to hear from you. I haven't seen you posting in awhile. But, in regards my old checks, I really don't think anyone is going to be checking with the state to see if they have a half a dollar's worth of funds sitting there or even $10. I think the highest check is $140 or so, that one I'm considering leaving as outstanding because I think the lady still works there and the client needs to talke to her. But I honestly think the restaurant cashed her check and it just got lost somehow. It's too expensive in Hawaii for someone not to cash a check that size.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 21, 2007
I've seen payroll checks get cashed up to a year later -- even by people I thought couldn't afford to hold onto them. Good point about having the client check with current employees. I usually suggest that the old checks have stop payment put on them and new ones issued in that case. (Sometimes client does not do stop payment.)

By the way, I've been posting something several times a week.

Moneric (talk|edits) said:

21 March 2007
like it or not - they are escheated funds and should be turned over to Unclaimed Property. BTW, my mom did a property search & found an old payroll check for about $2 from 30 years ago & she is $2 richer today! I definitely would not void them - its such a mess in your payroll!

Going to get some GS cookies now - the choc covered w/ peanut butter ones...mmmmmm

Kathyt (talk|edits) said:

22 March 2007
My daughter is a girl scout, just place your orders here.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
Moneric is right. I had an unclaimed property audit when I was a controller. Previous controller voided $20,000 worth of these suckers. Ouch!

As for the Girl Scout Cookies, I had 16 boxes, now I am down to 8 (no I have not eaten them all)! Sorry, Kevinh5, but the thin mints are mine. Also the Samoas, the Tagalongs, the Trefoils, the Cafe Cookies and the All Abouts (2 boxes) are all spoken for leaving just the sugar-free brownies. You can have those. :-)

Tom

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
sugar free? I'd rather take my chances with the cat food. But thanks for thinking of me.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
The sugar-free was my wife's idea. I won't go anywhere near them.

I do see Girl Scout's selling cookies at the mall. If they are there, I will grab you a box or two.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
Moneric, what about the 6 month stale dated rule? How can anyone cash a 30 year old check, even if the bank didn't catch the date, with all the mergers and acquisitions it would be a wonder the original bank was even around. Wish I had some GS cookies around now. I'm dying for some chocolate, but I better go to bed instead.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
Actually Actionbsns, you remit the check to the state for the unclaimed property. Then they disperse it to the recipient, if they can find them. Hence the newspaper ads you see a couple of times a year. The most common unclaimed property items are old payroll checks and bank accounts from what I recall. In most states, unclaimed property statute of limitations starts after 7 years. In other words, if you don't cash your paycheck or a bank account is dormant for 7 years, you need to fill out a form (surprise) and submit the form with check to your state. At least, that's how MD does it.

I am on the prowl later for GS cookies.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 23, 2007
Hawaii is similar, although the time frame may be different. And I think businesses in Nevada are required to turn over paychecks after just two years.

You know, GS cookies are okay, but homemade cookies are the best. And actually if you get down to it, M&Ms are really the best snack for these late-night hours.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
Natalie - Thanks, now I have to go out at lunch time and get some M&M's, along with GS Cookies.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
It's only 10AM and I am getting a junk food attack. AAAGGHHHH!

Karen258 (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
My name was listed in the paper for unclaimed funds totalling $1255.88 in February. I don't know if it belongs to me or not but called anyway. I was told it takes a long time to claim. I have lived at the same address for 12 years so if it is mine they didn't look for me very hard! They wouldn't tell me the source of where the unclaimed fund came from.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
Natalie, how do you go about sending these checks to the state? There must be a form, and can we just do one form for all the checks or does each check need a form - most of these are under $10 and about 15 of them are under a dollar, so time spent is a consideration. Then what happens within the checking account? I guess that we would void them and issue a check to the state so it actually clears the bank. Now as to tax food and Girl Scout cookies, it's breakfast time and Peanut M&M's have the healthy advantage of peanuts, the cookies have flour, eggs, maybe some nuts and the last time I looked all those things were healthy daily requirements. Served with Kona coffee in my new Lomonosov cup that I just bought on E-Bay. What a start to the day. BTW, I have a client that makes chocolate, they advertise themselves as "The smallest chocolate factory in the world", they also have a coffee orchard and sell their own coffee. Could there be a better client? I love going down there. Kevin, have you tried Kona coffee?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

23 March 2007
Yes, I like Kona coffee, and bought a bunch at Hilo Hattie's last time I was there, but to tell you the truth, it is no better than the stuff I drink regularly at home (still can't think of the name).

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 25, 2007
Action -- I'll check the forms later. As far as the treatment on the books goes, if you were to actually turn them over to the state, you would do the following.

Db. Cash Credit Liability account - to "void" the checks.

Then you would cut a check (I'm pretty sure it would be one check) to the state and debit the liability account.

I'm going to take my boys to the park. I'll get an answer to you by Monday on the forms/procedures.

Dog Tired (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
Does any client you know of send money for uncashed checks to the state? I know it's the rule but when I would tell clients that, they'd look at me like I'd lost my mind. My more talented Quickbooks clients just delete the one or two year old checks thus screwing up prior balance sheets and cash balances. I just repair the damage they do to miscellaneous and go down the road.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
In Georgia about 8 years ago they had a big crackdown on this. State audited lots of companies & fined lots of money. I would hope your E&O is up to date if you recommend that.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
The way they found it was just to ask for the last 3 year's bank reconciliations. When an uncleared check was out of sequence/stale, they asked questions.

Oh, and I guess they asked for year end journal entries prepared by the accountant or bookkeeper also.

Easy audit for them. Easy money for the state. State gets penalties now plus unclaimed property after so many years.

Dog Tired (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
I sure don't recommend the deletions--it's just what I see being done. I can't get people to comply. Not talking about a lot of money here but most clients seem to want to ignore the rule. What do you do?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
I don't do bookkeeping. Some people don't even require their clients reconcile their bank accounts Discussion:Bank reconcilations for tax returns.

Dog Tired (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
Kevinh5--thanks for the insight on how other states catch folks. Maybe that might impress some clients. I don't do bookkeeping either--just see the after the fact books with last year's balance sheet no longer the same as it was when I worked on it last year. My partner just found this website tonight and it is nice to know there are lots of us out there having the same issues. Good luck for the rest of tax season.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
Kevin, you are alluding to, or maybe it's Dog Tired who is alluding to, the fact that possibly all void checks must go to the state. My original question had to do with payroll checks and I can see why these would need to be sent to the state for follow up. As soon as we get that part figure out with the forms and such, that's what I plan on telling my clien to do. But what about other checks, to vendors and such? You're not implying those go to the state are you? I do also do the bookkeeping for many of my clients, and I do require bank recs, at least the December 31 bank rec. When I see odd transactions by clients deleting old checks we have quite a discussion about them.

Anyway, even though this thread has taken a comedic and fun turn, I really learned something here that I didn't know and I appreciate the help and the information. Now if I could only find a girl scout somewhere to sell me some cookies.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
Actionbsns,

If you are in the state listed on your profile, try this:

http://www.unclaimedproperty.hawaii.gov/

Now, off to church, after that coffee and GS Cookies! I am still looking.

Tom

Moneric (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
Action - the check was sent to escheated funds, she completed the paperwork (a real pain!) and got the $$$ She didn't cash the check.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
All stale checks are supposed to go to the state unclaimed property. Whether it is to a vendor or payroll. States have different rules as to when a check is "stale". Many states have websites - I just checked my name in North Carolina and Georgia to make sure I didn't forget something already.

Other things that are supposed to go there: stale bank accounts when they can't find the owner, stale brokerage accounts, uncashed refund checks. I'm surprised the states don't try to collect uncashed IRS refunds. Once they read this post (in search of GS cookies, no doubt), they will figure out a way.

Woodstock (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
You guys are killing me!

Don't cha know everything is on-line nowadays? www.girlscouts.org You can order a million boxes of whatever you like! Hopefully they aren't being shipped over from China...they say on the box "no trans fats" but there's nothing about "no trans rat poison"...

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
Thanks Tao for the link, I just went there and I'm shocked at the procedure that needs to be followed. I'm going to call the County of Hawaii on Monday and see what they have to say about what I need to be telling a client. It seems that once you start sending the forms in you have to continue reporting annually on the same set of checks. I hope I'm wrong on that one and it really means you should report new stuff annually. I just can't see a lot of people following this set of rules, not than I'm condoning it, I just don't think most people are aware of its existence. Take gift certificates for example, they are listed as something to go to the abandoned property guys. I have a couple of retail stores for clients and they issue gift certificates, they would be hard pressed to be able to track who they sold them to, where that person lived, and would not be able to provide information at all. They just keep the dollar amounts on the books and when someone comes in with a certificate, they honor them even if it says they are expired. As for other checks, we don't void them with wild abandon, and I always tell the client to check, if possible, with the payee and re-issue if necessary. This has been a very enlightening discussion, I have a little research to do on the topic and probably some re-adjusting of what I tell a client about voiding checks. Can I get CPE's with my cookies, please?

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2007
You're welcome, Action. Must be tough for you being out in Hawaii, but someone has to do it. :-)

As someone who experienced this audit in MD, it was an eye-opening experience. I have had to counsel my clients on how to treat the checks they issue that never get off the bank reconciliation. Like most of us, I used to write these checks off. Since my experience several years ago, I make sure they contact the vendor or employee to ask if they need a replacement. I absolutely detest the paperwork involved to file this return. What I find funny is that MD (and I believe most other states) don't send the return to businesses. Most clients find out when they are audited and by then, the penalties and expense isn't something they budgeted.

No cookies yet, still on the prowl. But I did get a nice big tenderloin at the store to carve up. I am going to take my frustrations out on it and make a nice bleu cheese stuffed tenderloin I saw Alton Brown prepare on the Food Network.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 26, 2007
Action, I guess you got the information I was going to get for you. Yes, unfortunately it is just more than paychecks that get turned over. And yes, regular reporting is required. I thought it was semi-annual reporting, but maybe it's only annual.

As far as whether companies actually do turn over the funds, in my experience the compliance rate is low, low, low. (I would bet it's almost as low as the compliance rate for use tax paid on personal purchases in Hawaii.) I was all set to do the paperwork for one client when the treasurer said to just "write off" the checks.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2007
Veritas. The good coffee I buy is called Veritas. Organic. Better than Gevalia for you coffee afficianados out there.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2007
Better late than never, Kevin

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2007
someone brought in a W-2 with that name , I knew I could find the truth.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

9 July 2007
THANK YOU to User:BottomLine for bringing me a box of Thin Mints Girl Scout cookies today!!!! I laughed!!

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

16 July 2007
You're welcome Kevin. Great NATP class on 1040's and 1041's! I learned so much!

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2008
I had already thanked Actionbsns for the Kona coffee personally last year, but I will post (9 months later) another THANK YOU because it was indeed so good.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2008
You are so very welcome, Kevin. Your help is always so appreciated. I love this thread BTW. It's funny, but if you really read through it there is some really good information on a couple of topics and I don't think there is even one slightly sarcastic or nasty comment. It sort of epitomizes what TA is and should continue to be.

BTW, my new office is finally up, running, fully debugged, and functional!!! We even have a break room of sorts, and I have a coffe pot and enjoy Kona coffee in my own office. My file room is doubling as a nursery part time since my assistant's three month old has joind the "staff". Some days his verbalizing seems far more intelligent than some who walk through the door.

Happy tax season all.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

January 24, 2008
I'm glad to hear you are supporting your assistant by allowing her to bring her child to work, Action. It is so important for the mom to be with the baby at this stage in life.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2008
Action,

Good for you. Glad to hear you are being supportive as well.

My sister and her family helped me get reorganized. She is really good at that. They spent several hours over a bunch of days helping me get it together over here. It's almost done. I am really glad for the help. It's almost looks like an office again.

I need some M&M's now.

Tom

Joanmcq (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2008
Wasabe peanuts!

I got interested in this because of the escheated funds problem. I had a state retirement account escheat, but it was easy to get back. But my boss had an Etrade account with some Harley stock in it which she was just holding. Etrade escheated the account and she can't find the stock or the cash. The state (CA) says they don't have it and Etrade says they do. And she wants the STOCK back since its gone up since they lost it.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

January 24, 2008
My office manager is pregnant :-), due in late May. We are already discussing how to convert the loft area into a nursery for the summer. Not sure what to do once she starts walking....

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2008
1995 or 96 we had the playpen in our office.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

January 25, 2008
That's really great you guys (and gals) are so supportive of mothers! Yippee!

Tom, I need some help organizing. I've already had my M&Ms, though. I guess I should wait and use them as a reward to motivate myself a little more.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

25 January 2008
Better than peanut M&M's are the Reese's Pieces - they are soooo getting in the way of my "Two Great shakes and a sensible meal" diet plan.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

25 January 2008
Heck, my diet plan is working well. 24+ pounds since late November and still going. And I can eat whatever I want including peanut M&M's, barbecue, you name it. The trick, I just don't eat as much.

Some great secret, heh?


Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

January 25, 2008
I eat pretty much whatever I want, too. When I visit my mom, I usually lose a couple of pounds in about three weeks. My secret is riding bike every day.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
New diet method. Bad gall bladder. Makes you afraid to eat anything. It's coming out on 2/6!

Oh by the way. It's girl scout cookie time!! I've already ordered 7 boxes of thin mints and 2 boxes of trefoils.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
Just for you, BL: http://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/323634

There are four other stories devoted to this onset of this problem, and now we find that Pam will need to have her gb taken out.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
Thanks D&T. Different genders but hopefully you're doing much better now and I won't have a similar problem. Surgeon says it will be day surgery and I'll be home that night. I've already moved a desktop computer into a spare room at home so hopefully won't lose TOO much time. I asked "when can I drive?" Dr said 1-2 day. I asked "when can I go back to work?" Dr said "You'll know." I said "That's real helpful." You know your belly pain is bad when your husband that's a paramedic suggests going to the emergency room. (We compromised by calling my brother who's a Dr.) Good luck to Pam. I'll let everyone know how it all comes out.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
I did go to the ER, BL, the first night it hit: http://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/296092 .....even has Steve Spurrier in it. But when I had mine removed, you must remember I worked from home, 250 miles from most clients, so only had to drive to the post office, supermarket and walk the dog, plus go up and down a flight of steps to my copier and file room. Surgeon is right, though, maybe a day or so for driving. That Foley bag came apart in the Grand Union one day.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
I had my hip replaced right January 17, 2005. After my surgery, doctor tells my wife, "Your husband must have been in excruciating pain. We never saw these on x-ray, but we found bone fragments in between the hip and the ball socket." I can't tell you the difference in how much better I felt the next day.

And Bottom Line, if you feel that those Thin Mints are making you ill, I'll be happy to take a box or two off your hands.

Tom

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
When I had breast cancer, a long time ago thankfully, it all started in about July, the following February or so, the surgeon said I could go back to work now. I looked at him really strange and he said "You didn't take any time off at all did you?" How could I do that and keep a business working? My office was in my house and the office was a few steps away from wherever I was - phone, fax, mail, it all worked really well and the clients were none the wiser. I did have to drive a bit some times, but no biggy.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

26 January 2008
My office is about a mile from my house but I'm planning/hoping to work from home during the recovery. The surgery is on a Wednesday and I'm hoping to be back in the swing of things by the middle of the following week. (Wishful thinking perhaps) I drive to many of my clients but they know I'm having this done so should cut me some slack.

Thin Mints are an addiction. I've been known to go through a sleeve in a sitting.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

2 February 2008
I just ordered my Girl Scout cookies this week. Thin Mints, Do Si Dos, Samoas, Tagalongs. $28 bucks worth. There are for my clients. If you believe that, I also have a bridge to Hawaii (where I hear it's freezing this time of year) I will sell you.

This is also a thread bump, so others will get in on the joke.

Tom

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

2 February 2008
Joan - in your honor I bought some wasabi green peas. What a bite!! They are as addictive as potato chips - you can't stop until they're all gone.

Sandysea (talk|edits) said:

2 February 2008
Can I have some wasabi too Kevin? I like the wasabi peas...now THOSE you can't stop until they are gone either...

BL you will be in my thoughts....you won't miss that GB at all I hope :)

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

2 February 2008
Thanks Sandy. Keep your fingers crossed for my husband's job too. The recent property tax amendment has the city talking about laying off nine firefighters (14% of the staff). They say it's going to be the guys making the most money. If he can keep his job until 5/31/08, he retires and gets a pension check for 75% of pay starting the next month. If they lay him off, it will be 2014 before he can start drawing a pension check.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

February 2, 2008
Geez, BL. Why is it the services that are needed most get cut first? I think generally these people are underpaid, so even the top guys are probably not making what they should. Are the state workers there under union?

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
It's a small city in the most densely populated county in the state. The county collects the property tax money and then doles it out to the various cities. Unfortunately the only thing the union is good for is taking $50/month and it's highly unlikely that the union would fight this. The county hasn't decided if they're going to cut funding for the fire departments (has to go through budget, then legal, then risk, then legal, then risk....). Once that happens, the city then has to decide who to let go. As an "oh by the way", my husband is over 40 and there are federal laws to protect workers over 40. Just hoping the footdragging of the government drags out past 5/31/08.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

February 3, 2008
The reason I asked about the union is that I just found out in our lovely state one department can afford to let go of 1/3 of its employees without losing any service to the public, but it is not allowed to let the employees go because of the union. Another department, however, is severely understaffed. I was just wondering if that is what's happening by you. If Florida is like Hawaii, it won't be resolved until summer time.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
The Florida constitution was just amended by the voters which changed property taxes and will lower taxes about $200/year. (As an FYI, I currently pay around $2,500.)

Sandysea (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
Yeah, BL the amendment will increase the homestead to double, but because the values of homes (from the property appraisers office) have increased so much in value, it will be less than it would have been if passed when homes were valued at reasonable figures.

I don't think the firefighters will be the ones cut as quickly...there is already one lawsuit in the works over the amendment. I certainly will be thinking of both of you!!

And where are my wasabi peas? It is Superbowl Sunday!!! hehe

Belle (talk|edits) said:

February 3, 2008
BL - If it really progresses to the point of cuts in the fire dept, I suggest you get the public involved/notified. I've dealt with similar stuff in CA (where we have Prop 13 limiting property tax increases), and it seems that with any budget issues, the first target is fire and police services. When the public finds out their safety may be compromised, they tend to let their representatives know that isn't a good idea :-). Plus, the public just LUVS the firemen (in general); so do I. IMO, I doubt any gov. agency is going to move fast enough to threaten your husband's job; but I'm sure there are others that are sweating it out. Good luck...gotta go do the appetizers for Super Bowl!

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
There are LOTS of different avenues to pursue and neither my husband nor I are horribly worried. I believe a lot of this has to do with local politicians overeacting. The local newspapers have yet to run a story on the budget growth over the last five years showing how much the revenues grew when RE was overinflated.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

13 February 2008
My Girl Scout Cookies just arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/happy/1219.gif

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

February 13, 2008
Tom, I can't figure out which smiley that is. It has to be uploaded to this website to be linked. (At least that's how I did the other ones.)

Joanmcq (talk|edits) said:

13 February 2008
Ahhh, the wasabe peas are even better than the peanuts. I found both at a store I dont' shop at much; the peanuts went to work whereas the peas went right upstairs to my home office desk. Not sharing those! The now empty can is reminding me to go back to that store...

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

February 13, 2008
Whew, I'm getting tired just watching that little guy go up and down!

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

13 February 2008
Well, he's about to work overtime as the wife ordered.....


wait for it.........


more Girl Scout Cookies!!!!!!!!

http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/happy/1219.gif http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/happy/1219.gif

Tom

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

13 February 2008
Just got my GS cookies last night. I thought I had over ordered, now I don't think I ordered enough - only 8 boxes.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

February 13, 2008
OK, all this talk of GS cookies isn't fair. I order 6 boxes (I think) and haven't gotten them yet and I could reeeeaaaaalllllly use them! Guess it's cuz I live in the boonies...hope they show up before the weekend. Comfort food on the weekend always tastes a little bit better.

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

13 February 2008
ate one sleeve of thin mints for lunch today.. kids ate other (off school - snow day, argh!)

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
Hey Bottom Line!!!! My assistant brought in some Girl Scout Thin Mint Cookies!!!!! You know how much I love these!!!

TheTinCook (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
Awww man...none of my coworkers have kids in the Girl Scouts. They're doing a See's Candy fundraiser though, so all is not lost!

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
Kevin that's great! Hubby asked for some extra cash to take to work today because he thought they might be in. I think I've got a total of 7 boxes coming!

Tin - I usually see them around Wal-Mart and some groceries. Give that a try. Hopefully all is not lost.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/drink/trink33.gif

TheTinCook (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
Will do BL!

I'm ashamed to admit that I was hoping that some kind soul would take pity and escheat me some Tagalongs.

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
Refrigerated Samoas, pure heaven:) I'm on my last box:(

My grandaughter quit Girl Scouts, thank God for the neighborhood kids who went door to door.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

February 25, 2008
My 11:00 am appointment is the mother of the Girl Scout I ordered from....but still NO COOKIES
-(

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

2 March 2008
My thanks to RoyDaleOne for forwarding the website for the GirlScoutCookies. I clicked on the link, put in my zip code and VOILA, found that these industrious young cookie vendadores would be appearing today from 1-5 in front of a grocery store only 3 miles from my office purveying their confectionary treasures.

You know my priorities, Girl Scout Cookies come before doing another tax return, so I just bought 3 boxes of Thin Mints, one box of Shortbread, one box of Caramel Delites (the ones with the toasted coconut) and one box of Thanks-A-Lot (crunchy fudge-coated treats).

Which should I open first, and how many will there be left for me to share tomorrow when my staff comes in?


LOL

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

2 March 2008
I just polished off my second box since Friday, yumm, yumm.

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

3 March 2008
I was reminded of the Girl Scout cookies I had hidden. well ha! MY STASH IS 2 BOXES SHORT! Seems my kids found them and they like them as much as I do.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
I got some more Girl Scout Cookies today!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!

That more than makes up for answering homework questions disguised as legit questions on the Accounting Questions forum!

Tom

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
I just met a great connection....

The area Girl Scout Cookie Mom!!!!!

Her daughters ride the bus with my daughter!!! I just placed a third order.

Can you overdose on Girl Scout Cookies?

Tom

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
OK, I tried to be good but they kept calling my name. A sleeve of Thin Mints bites the dust.

PostingFromWork (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
I had a half sleeve of Trefoils with some homemade dulce de leche for breakfast this morning.

The Thin Mints in my freezer didn't survive hibernation.

And the last of the renegade Samosas are being hunted down and devoured as we speak.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
UUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!! Frozen Thin Mints!!! (Picture of Homer Simpson saying "Donuts" with a glazed look in his eye and drool running down his chin)

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 4, 2008
Tom, see previous thread(s) on gastric bypass surgery (wish I could do those dancing 'things' that you always do)  ;-)

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
Belle,

Really, some boxes are not for me (it's true I tell you, it's true) and I have also shed 30+ pounds since December. I am actually pretty active as a soccer referee, so I try my best to keep in shape.

That said, (currently looking both ways and whispering) I just snuck a sleeve of Do-Si-Do's. It's all I've eaten all day.

Tom

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

4 March 2008
Well, I was wrong, my granddaughter has not quit girl scouts. We just did not get the call for an order this year. Thats just wrong, I need to talk to my son!

PostingFromWork (talk|edits) said:

5 March 2008
Fear not tax professionals, for I have slain the fearsome Tagalong! It's chocolate covered peanutty foulness shall rot forever in the depths o' my gullet.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

5 March 2008
Time for another sleeve of Thin Mints to bite the dust.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

5 March 2008
speaking of biting the dust, I put client's prep fee checks in the top left drawer of my desk. Some fell out behind the drawer, and went under the desk. Had to lift the desk and have assistant sweep everything out to retrieve the checks. Also found lots of wasabi peas which had been biting the dust on their own after they too fell behind the drawer.

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

5 March 2008
Wazzzzop!Wazzzzop!Wasabi?

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

5 March 2008
Frozen cookie dough from the 4-H is also yummy!

Joanmcq (talk|edits) said:

6 March 2008
A coworker of mine found a place that sells wasabi peas by the POUND!!!! I cleaned out the container today. Our girl scout cookies are running low...no treats at home...but I need to lose 30 pounds (I think I have yours Taocpa)...wait, there's the last of the german chocolate on top of the fridge! gotta go!

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

7 March 2008
Well folks, here's another place you can get Girl Scout Cookies (thanks to Belle for the heads up):

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Tom

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

7 March 2008
What's the world coming to when people are selling Girl Scout cookies on E-Bay?

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 7, 2008
BL, you can get just about anything on e-Bay.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

7 March 2008
Very true. Although I've hear that they will take kidneys off.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

7 March 2008
Heck, you can even bid on Scarlett Johansson:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250221082811&Category=16071&_trksid=p3907.m29

I wish I had that kind of $$$$ lying around. I told the wife. She told me I could not bid even if I had the money. Image:sad.jpg

(Just kidding)!!!!

Tom

Joanmcq (talk|edits) said:

17 March 2008
Wasabe peas! I'm in heaven with wasabe peas! (and my roommates stuck some thin mints in the freezer....heh, heh, heh, and they're not home...)

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

20 March 2008
SAMOAS and THIN MINTS!!!!!!

What a surprise to receive a special tax season care package filled with Girl Scout Cookies from Taocpa in the mail today!!!!!

A dozen kittens have been pardoned and their lives saved.

Thank you, Tom!!!

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

7 April 2009
We're no longer serving the Biscoff cookies. Switched to individual packets of Famous Amos chocolate chip cookies in January. Two of my clients were outraged. They wanted the Biscoff cookies.

Also, no longer serving hotel coffee to guests. I broke down and bought coffee this tax season.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

8 April 2009
Wow Kevin, I haven't seen this thread up in a really long time!! BTW I'm still waiting for the GS cookies my granddaughter is supposed to send to me. I'll bet you anything her parents have eaten them!!! This would be my son who I know for a fact is quite capable of such theiving behaviour - he ate a whole half gallon of ice cream once and replaced it with ice milk when I got cranky at him, then when I was cranky about that, he looked at me increduously and said "Do you KNOW how much ice cream costs!!!???"

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 8, 2009
Yeah, Mom, that stuff is expensive! Ya gotta laugh at what kids do sometimes.

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

27 February 2011
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41812121/ns/business-consumer

The sale of GS Cookies is barred outside the founder's home.

Joanmcq (talk|edits) said:

28 February 2011
I guess this thread would have to be resurrected.

I ate half a box of GS cookies Friday night and another half box last night. The other parts of the boxes were eaten during the day.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

February 28, 2011
Great, just great....I've been sick (bad news), but that means I've lost a few pounds (good news). I hadn't realized that GS cookies will be appearing soon. Sigh, and of course, I have NO willpower during tax season. So, here come those 'lost' pounds again.

EatonCPA (talk|edits) said:

9 May 2012
I looked up this thread because someone in another thread indicated this would be humorous and I like humorous. Then darned if I didn't stumble into the world of "things I didn't know I didn't know." So let me see if I understand this correctly: a client writes a check (payroll or otherwise) and it never clears the bank - unless there is clearly a replacement check issued after the fact or the client presents something indicating a check was cashed out, after a certain period (mandated by state laws) goes by, the business is required to forward those monies to the state? And therefore in bookkeeping we should never ever "void" a check - either directly or via JE? And if never claimed, who keeps these monies??

Both of my daughters are in GS and this year I was one of the cookie moms (in tax season ... don't know what the heck I was thinking when I agreed to that, though it worked out well overall). Anyway, our troop sold over 4,000 boxes of GS cookies this year and pretty much every single one went through my house at some point. For months I literally had stacks of CASES of GS cookies in a room in my house (technically there are still two such stacks tucked in a corner). I sent the Girl Scouts into the black this year single-handedly I think, just swiping a box here or there .. and with help from my boss' wife, who gave birth during tax season and in the final stages of pregnancy was REALLY craving Tagalongs.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

9 May 2012
Sara, this thread is just one of the best examples of what you can learn on TA. I think the monies go into that fund at the state level where everyone knows your name. The one that pops up in the news ever so often because someone's name was on such a list and their $10 paycheck is now worth a million dollars or so for some reason. I'm not sure how many people actually follow this mandate, but now we know.

Good job on the GS cookes BTW.

EatonCPA (talk|edits) said:

9 May 2012
> I'm not sure how many people actually follow this mandate, but now we know.

I hate knowing things.

> Good job on the GS cookes BTW.

The selling or the eating? :)

Belle (talk|edits) said:

May 30, 2014
Bump

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

June 6, 2014
Dear Girl Scouts, Can you please bring back the Striped Chocolate Chip cookies?

Spell Czech (talk|edits) said:

7 June 2014
"Good job on the GS cookes BTW."

Is *nobody* looking out for our spelling, BTW?

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