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CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
What's the point here? Yes he was director of the CIA. Yes such liaisons could be dangerous, but I seriously doubt Petraeus is the type to give away U.S. secrets with his pillow talk.

The FBI says there is nothing here but human drama. The FBI has a record of prying into "human drama". It's a bad one. I hope they are not proud of it. How long have they known it was "human drama"?

A general has an affair. Ahem. Wouldn't be the first time that has happened with a general. I respect the guy's integrity with his statement to the CIA employees. I just don't get the excessive media attention. It's not like the lady is 15 years old.

Am I missing something here?

Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
I am reassured that you, Crow, saw fit to indict the media for this flurry of "journalistic fluff" occasioned by a good man's fall. The media is/are totally at fault.

I mean the babe is really really *hot*!! and she deserves to have any man she wants!

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
Thank God we didn't have the same media and internet in 1944: Eisenhower is found to be playing around and taken from command two days before D-Day.

Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
Did General Petraeus wait until after the election to fall on his sword? If that is the case, is it therefore media-driven and does it therefore suck him into this media-be-damned indictment?

Tax Writer (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
Everyone-- this guy was caught because he had a "private" GMAIL account. Seriously-- he's the director of the CIA, but I guess some getting some extra cookie on the side made him lose his marbles. Any two-bit hacker out of high school can hack GMAIL (or Yahoo, etc). What was he thinking? And the newspapers are right-- this is a situation where a very powerful person has put himself in a position to be blackmailed. It's a national security risk... such stupidity deserves to be rewarded.

Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
Hacked gmail? I heard a much more sophisticated back-story...

Snowbird (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
I believe we are a whole lot better off that we have multi-media outlets that will report this type of news on the main stream media's favorites. I was a supporter of civil rights back in the 60's (and still am), it made me mad that JFK and Bobby would not do something about Hoover who refused to be involved in civil rights. Now we know why, JFK and Bobby had girl friends ... the worst part, it was well known by the press. If the Kennedys did not have the press in the bag, they would have walked a straighter line and could have fired Hoover. It is really something to listen to a liberal such as Chris Matthews, who wrote a book on Kennedy, try to justify Kennedy's extra marital affairs.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

11 November 2012
Everyone who has a high security clearance and a need to know access is subject to the rules, no free passes. With thousands of people working for you there is no room for give-mes.

The President is the only person who gets a pass, and that is because 1. he is the elected representative of the people, 2. as the President and Chief Executive he can declassify or classify at his discretion.

Ukbones (talk|edits) said:

12 November 2012
When I think *scandal* the lizard-like scumbag antics of the despicable Bill Clinton come to mind. This fails to get my juices flowing.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

12 November 2012
Ukbones I agree there are a lot of differences. President Bill Clinton was a good guy when compared to ______.

And don't think I approve of all the actions of President George W. Bush.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

12 November 2012
They are now saying that the FBI held on to this investigation too long before informing the Executive or Legislative branch. My guess is that the FBI was concerned that the entities might leak information and destroy the investigation.

The interesting fact is that the FBI wanted to keep the channel open so it makes you wonder if this only concerned "human drama".

Spell Czech (talk|edits) said:

13 November 2012
If the FBI had done this better, they - the FBI - could have had something to use as leverage against the CIA director. But I'm a cynic.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

13 November 2012
Spell, it's gotten to the point that the FBI feels it can't tell Congress or the Executive anything because they could leak it and ruin an investigation.

I still think the General was just suffering from natural human weakness. He was over there in the war zone with this lady and of course we all know what happens when the bullets start flying and the stress of war, why it's only natural that he sought the affection of this modern day Cleopatra or Bathsheba.

It wouldn't surprise me if the company Chaplain was even having an affair with one of the WACS. War will do this to you.

And then you have to consider that working for the CIA can be boring. Once you know the dirt on everybody and all the secrets it becomes routine. Naturally a man's thoughts start to wonder.

Because of my history of harmless flirtations with the opposite sex, I am willing to give the General a pass; but the media won't let go of it and I do wonder. Maybe the media is just desperate for new content after the recent election brouhaha petered out.

CathysTaxes (talk|edits) said:

13 November 2012
Crow, I agree with your first post. A CIA director can't have an affair, but anybody else can and does.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

13 November 2012
Speaking for myself, I deny everything. All I've ever done is flirt.  :)

Seriously, I've slowed down with age. My only two girlfriends now are the two ladies who work in the Deli at my grocery store. Both of them are missing a number of teeth, but they are precious and funny. I was sweet on a cashier, but she was promoted to another store. Love's labors lost, as the great poet said.

None of my girl friends have ever owned a computer or cell phone. I learned my lesson after what happened to Tiger.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2012
UPDATE: One Madame Ambassador Kelley, U.S. Social Ambassador for Military Command*, CENTCOM, Tampa, has now been drawn into the web of Affaire Petreaus, Allen and Co.

Ambassador Kelley is reported to be a bored socialite looking for something different to do with her time. I don't know if this is a paid position or if she just works for tips, nor do I have a description of her duties which should be outlined according to military procedure.

Some wags are saying that Madame Kelley likes to ride the kind of rocket that only a military man can provide. No word on whether the enlisted men are also entitled to her Ambassadorial largesse.

.*Should I put the emphasis on Ambassador, or Madame?

PollyAdler (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2012
And they say it's hard to find a job in America. Phooey! If I had known I could be an Ambassador I wouldn't have been wasting my time catering to middle management.

Gazoo (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2012
I've been thinking through the implications of this growing scandal. Peyton Place meets Gomer Pyle.

Now it appears we have this lady Social Ambassador on the payroll down there assigned to CENTCOM. How do we know but that all the big military bases across the nation have similar "ambassadors" on the payroll?

The next think we'll find out is that they've got a Monsieur Ambassador for Social Affairs and Entertainment assigned to our military base in San Francisco! Monsieur Ambassador meets the Presidio.

They've turned CENTCOM into the movie set of "Beach Blanket Bingo". The Generals have regressed into randy teenage boys at summer camp. It's worse than American Pie V.

Why can't the generals and admirables (admirals) just watch porn on the internet like the rest of us do? It'd be a lot less cost to the taxpayer.

This is an obvious breakdown in military discipline and reminds one of the recent breakdown in discipline in the Secret Service. If these men don't have enough work to keep them busy, we need to put them back to cutting grass on the military bases with their fingers.

Spell Czech (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2012
Madame, Madam, madame, madam, m'damn...

We'd better check with Letitia Baldrige. "Tish" we called her; she taught us not to clink our glasses at the dinner table. She knew correct from incorrect.

Gazoo (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2012
lol.

Podolin (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2012
Tish died 10/29/12.

Spell Czech (talk|edits) said:

16 November 2012
RIP

Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said:

17 November 2012
"If these men don't have enough work to keep them busy..." says Gazoo.

I heard recently that the U.S. Navy has more admirals today than it has warships.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

17 November 2012
Harry, I had to finally give up on the generals and their female playthings.

If anyone is interested, I am now covering this affair under "Big Breasted Courtesy Ambassadors".

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