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Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
As I prepare to use this free service again, I wonder what the rules are for bashing and other inappropriate post replies. What are the rules prohibiting this? How are posters informed of them? Are they enforced?

Trillium (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Theres a Code of Conduct that users are guided to if someone thinks their reply is out of line. This is generally a self-enforcing forum, although I suppose egregious issues could be referred to the moderator, Tim Doyle. Obviously, with many users and many different personalities here, there will be differences of opinion on what should be allowed or condoned.

As an example of this, I would refer you back to this discussion, where I felt Steve's joke about Wesley Snipes was a little edgy, but didn't say anything - and then I regretted not speaking up, since Joyce obviously didn't see it as funny. The conversation between Steve and Joyce was not going well, and then some other users stepped in to try to calm things down - an example of the community at work. Then later, you joined the discussion with what I saw as piling on, with a direct slam against Joyce, and I told you that I thought your comment was in violation of the code of conduct. You did not appear to agree, but you did let it go once someone else asked you to. Again, the community at work.

I also think all of us, as users, have the opportunity to choose to read comments in the best, most favorable light, and rather than looking for "slights" against us, or trying to make hits against someone else, we should all try to remember that it's easy to misunderstand the tone and underlying meaning when reading text - especially online, where things often happen (or build) more quickly.

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Yes I recall, that may have been where someone suggeted "gifting" payments for employment services, I did flip out a little on that one, always regretted that. As I recall however all I did was object to the lack of insight, if it was seen as piling on I want you to know I had not read the thread up to that point. I don't always read cumulative contributions, my lack. Again, my objection was to the frivolous post, and I regret the way I handled it. However, I did not call names or make references that could be taken as a personal attack. If i did belittel Joyce this is an apology.

Personal attacks however, are what I and many others would consider bashing. Many sites do not allow it, and will not tolerate it. I have seen that happen on this site. I read the Code of Conduct, it is not specific. The "community" is not always made up of good people. As an example I would refer you to http://www.taxalmanac.com/index.php/Discussion:Correct_type_of_trust.

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Trillium, I just re-read the Joyce thread. My last post was an apology. No one else posted after that, I assumed it was settled.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Lancer, most of us get very frustrated when someone asks a question that they should either know the answer to or be able to look up Discussion:When is a question Stupid??. I personally get very frustrated at people with credentials who don't know how to use a Publication 17. You got frustrated too, that doesn't make you a bad person, any more than Dennis is a bad person for getting frustrated that other professionals didn't understand the topic as well as he felt he does.

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Kevin- I am having a hard time responding to your post as it seems to balance the matter carefully. However this is what I need to say.

I did not get frustrated. I did start fighting back, and I truly regret that, I should have ignored it. However, looking at what Dennis said leaves me thinking this site has no enforceable rules to prevent exactly what he did. Trillium called me on my Joyce comment, however I see no comparison to what Dennis did. I suppose I will follow the rules of conduct, and report what I see as violations in the future. How does one do that?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
To my knowledge Tim Doyle only checks in about once every one to three months lately. He is no enforcer. He has left it up to 'the community' to self-police ourselves. While some may see this equivilent to leaving the fox in charge of the henhouse, Trillium's point above was that at all times there are those among us who have retained composure enough to tell those of us who haven't to 'chill out'. So to answer your question, you could merely point out someone's inappropriate remarks, or you could leave it up to others to point them out.

In Discussion:Dependency Exemption/Credits for Great Grandchild?, the person who felt slighted by my comment contacted me outside of TA to tell me that he felt my response was improper.

Natalie has always chimed in when she felt others were acting less than professionally.

Lancermc (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Thanks Kevin for your valuable insights. I am going to simply move on and proceed to use Tax Almanac, however I will likely adjust how I use it, be more careful what I say, etc. Its the info we all come here for after all. Just one last thought---

The below is copied from another site I know of. It seems to work. Rather than have an informal group, the matters are dealt with uniformly. It seems to work.

Dealing with Troublesome Users Can I block posts, emails and messages from specific users?

If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. There are several ways to do this:

Through your User Control Panel: User CP, Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List. Then, click on their name and choose: User List, Add to Ignore List

What if I see something offensive?

You will find 'Report' links in many places throughout the board. These links allow you to alert the board staff to anything which you find to be offensive, objectionable or illegal.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

14 November 2008
Those options would be helpful. I would like to IGNORE all posts from those who aren't tax professionals on this board, and possibly ignore all those without ths slightest of profiles.

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