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Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

27 March 2009
Please everyone do a backup of your tax data before going home tonight. I have more than a premonition that someone here will be thankful that they did this.

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 27, 2009
I do backups every night before I go upstairs. Shell to DOS and type "bu" to run my bu.bat file that copies all changed or new data files to three other hard drives in the house.

Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said:

27 March 2009
offsite backup..lots of providers for this...is even better.

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 27, 2009
Not for me. It takes less than 2 seconds for me to type "bu" and it's free. Of course, ya have to know how to write batch files to do it my way.

Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said:

27 March 2009
but if your house burns down while you are at the store...

Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said:

27 March 2009
poof !!!!!!

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 27, 2009
True

Rgtaxservice (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2009
I use a Click Free backup twice a day. I store it in the fire safe in case of 'poof'.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Kevin, why?

I back up nightly, to two different locations. One (Clickfree - thanks RG) goes home with me.

As long as both office & home don't burn....although, summer of 2007 - that was looking like a distinct possibility - scared the bejezzes outa me. Wildfires are scary things.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2009
In 1991, my first tax season on my own, the 31 story building next to us, burnt putting us on the street for three days....no back up then, no computers.

As an IBMer said to me last night, one backup good, two better. I used a portable HD and Carbonite.com.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Deback, care to share your batch method?

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Here it is, Natalie. In a text editor, copy and paste to a blank file and save with the extension of .bat.

@echo off

IF NOT EXIST K: NET USE K: \\BEDROOM\C2

IF NOT EXIST L: NET USE L: \\BEDROOM\D2

IF NOT EXIST S: NET USE S: \\EXTRA\C3

IF NOT EXIST T: NET USE T: \\EXTRA\D3

copy c:\"Documents and Settings"\deb\"My Documents"\ k:\"Documents and Settings"\deb\"My Documents"\ /shu

copy c:\"Documents and Settings"\deb\"My Documents"\ s:\Users\Deb\Documents\ /shu

copy k:\"Documents and Settings"\deb\"My Documents"\ C:\"Documents and Settings"\deb\"My Documents"\ /shu

rem copy s:\Users\Deb\Documents\ C:\"Documents and Settings"\deb\"My Documents"\ /shu

copy d:\appl\ l:\appl\ /shu

copy l:\appl\ d:\appl\ /shu

copy d:\appl\ e:\appl\ /shu

copy d:\appl\ t:\appl\ /shu

copy d:\appl\mspub\ d:\winapps\mspub\ /shu

copy d:\acct\ l:\acct\ /shu

copy d:\acct\ e:\acct\ /shu

copy d:\acct\ t:\acct\ /shu

copy c:\clients\ k:\clients\ /shu

copy c:\clients\ d:\clients\ /shu

copy c:\clients\ s:\clients\ /shu

rem copy c:\tax\ k:\tax\ /shu

copy c:\tax\ d:\tax\ /shu

rem copy c:\tax\ s:\tax\ /shu

net stop mssql$wfp_msde

rem copy c:\winfiler\wfp2008 k:\winfiler\wfp2008 /shu

rem copy c:\winfiler\wfp2008 d:\winfiler\wfp2008 /shu

rem copy c:\winfiler\wfp2008 s:\winfiler\wfp2008 /shu

copy c:\winfiler\2009 k:\winfiler\2009 /shu

copy c:\winfiler\2009 d:\winfiler\2009 /shu

copy c:\winfiler\2009 s:\winfiler\2009 /shu

net start mssql$wfp_msde

exit


(The lines starting with "rem" will not run.)

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2009
You young people have the energy to work your fingers to death like this.

It's a lot easier to just send it all to the printer, and keep hard copies of your changes ever day.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2009
Belle, the 'why' will surface within the next two weeks. Not for all, but for one.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2009
I, for one, have been having intermittent workstation problems with my desktop. It is the same model as two other employee's, so I have been thinking of swapping my hard drive for one of theirs and letting them have the problem.

All of the tax data is on my server, though, so that is what I back up.

Just five minutes ago, my desktop workstation re-booted again, on it's own. I think there is an overheat problem. One of the graphics cards burned out earlier this tax season (moniter kept getting yellow). Took it out and put in another fan. Still was re-booting at the worst of times. I took off the two sides and put a little desktop fan next to it to keep more air flowing (and dust, I'm sure). That helps only when the ambient room temp is less than 70 F. When it gets warmer than that, reboot city.

I really only need it to hang in there for two and a half more weeks....I need to replace an older Windows 2000 workstation anyways, but wanted to wait until just before next tax season to do it. All my other workstations are XP-Pro, and am not looking forward to having one VISTA to try to integrate. I know some are downgradable to XP-Pro, but who has time to fool with all of that right now? I still have 140 returns I need to do by 4/15 to be on schedule with last year. Probably have 75 in house to work on now.


So maybe the person is me, Belle, but maybe it is you, or someone else reading this. Whoever reads this needs to take my advice, though, and back up your data. Seriously.

Genskitty (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Kevin, I just had to replace my computer and what I did was wipe the harddrive on the new computer and installed XP. I can't stand Vista. I will like Windows 7 even less when it finally comes out.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2009
Where did you get that copy of XP? Maybe from a prior computer that you had purchased?

Genskitty (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Well actually, I do have a copy of Xp that I burned off of a prior computer. But you can still find it in the stores and if you go to microsoft.com they will sell you XP for $149.00 plus shipping and handling of course. If you go this route, I would strongly advise you to download the free copy of drivermax to backup your drivers first. And you may still have to go online to get some of the drivers to reinstall after you install XP.

Genskitty (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Or go to someplace like 'PC TuneUps' it's a discount computer store that rebuilds computers and they have variety of accessories. Most times thay can even build you a computer to your specs.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Thanks Deb. That looks like a little more than I want to tackle right now.

Kevin, my husband had the same issue with his computer re-booting frequently. He has a Mac though, and I'm not sure what he did to fix it.

Genskitty (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Kevin one last thought: Could it be the battery on the motherboard that just needs replacing?

Deback (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
One of the reasons why computers reboot themselves is when a motherboard is dying. If this is the case, at some point, the computer won't restart. If you notice bulges on the motherboard capacitors, your motherboard should have already died. Here are some pictures:

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=195

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2009
Thanks, Kevin. I just wondered if you had some advance premonition of a virus......sounds like just the general paranoia that hits this time of year when we are all so exhausted. Altho, it does sound like you are having some equipment issues.

Never hurts to be reminded to take care of all those butt-saving details that so easily get put on the back burner at the end of an 18 hour day. Hope no one gets nailed, particularly hope it isn't you or me !

I'm going to have to replace a workstation also, after the 15th, and like you, don't want anything to do with VISTA or W7. We'll have to compare notes on a 'workaround' later.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

29 March 2009
We had a power failure at 5:20 this morning for almost an hour. My wife's cell phone, which was being charged, lit up when it went out and tried to surge back and I saw it as I lay there. It only affected about six houses on my street. Data is still here anyway. Before she quit her computer last night, Windows had her install an update, something about an April 1st virus which she said probably was because she has Facebook.

This Lenovo SL500 is a fine machine, a dual core laptop running Viata for Business. It can drive you a bit mad, especially with Comodo Firewall constantly nagging when Vista doesn't, but this machine has been a god send. For once a laptop where I don't have to attach my own keyboard.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

29 March 2009
Deback, I'll add one more reason that your computer will reboot for no reason and that is when your power supply is getting ready to go out.

Replacing the power suppy is usually a fairly cheap fix, but try to get it done before it fails completely.

[The "power supply" on a desktop is really an AC to DC transformer, so I'm not talking battery pack when I say power supply].

I use Mozy backup service because it takes me out of the equation. Set it and forget it.

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