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Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2008
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/tavern-tax-service-mixes-beer-and-taxes/20080411084809990001

Might have to copy and paste. Not good at adding links.

I was really thinking of doing this. Also, at the local Ski Resort. Was gonna set up there for a Sunday.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 11, 2008
Why does that not surprise me? Maybe you guys can form a partnership.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 11, 2008
By the way, shouldn't this be under "general chat"?

TaxFlake (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2008
Champagne toasts for refunds!

A beer to cry-in for those who owe!

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2008
I figured the beer hall was better than the cat house.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 11, 2008
Especially with that bird flying around.

I wonder if he pays rent? He = the guy with the tax tavern.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 11, 2008
So Fred, how's the "Freddy Dictionary" coming along?

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
Coming along? The dictionary has been in place a long time. Just cause you came to the party late doesn't mean it's not there. Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Are my taxes done yet?

Nancyshoemake (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
Hey guys..... beer does wonders for a waiting area filled with clients. We started doing this a couple years back and no one gripes and complains when we are running behind because the beer makes them all very happy. Call it a little manipulation...

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
I'm having a heineken right now. To hell with the clients.

Nancyshoemake (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
what is this dictionary?

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
sorry Nance, you gotta look it up

check the dictionary.

Nancyshoemake (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
you know, i am really tryin to fit in here....and learn the ropes....sorry about my ignorance....also what is this fred for prez?

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
you fit in fine
me just bein silly

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2008
You know what would be really nice? If we could link a bunch of discussions together, it would make it easier for people to follow certain topics. For example, we could have a link to all of the discussions in which Fred participates. Then people would understand these things just by following a link and reading the discussions listed.


You see, Nancy, now what you have to do is individually look at some of Fred's posts. A good start would be "What's the best thing that happened to you today" in the General Chat. I just thought of a short cut. If you put "tequila" in the search box, you'll get a good sampling of Fred's posts and learn more than you ever wanted to know about him.


As far as the "Fred for President" issue goes, I'm not so sure about that anymore. Fred has kind of gotten on a high horse about the whole thing, and I don't know if he's the right man for the job. I think he might qualify for NY governor though, so we'll keep the campaign workers in place for the time being.


The "Freddy Dictionary" is a fictional book containing Fred's definitions of certain terms. My understanding was that it was being worked on by "Freddy World" staff, but I stand corrected. It's important to have a copy of that so you can understand how Fred will interpret your posts. If you'll notice, there are several times I have defined words because otherwise Fred applies his own meaning, and it is often not the one intended. Belle can attest to that. In fact, there are probably many others who can as well.


I hope this helps you understand a little more. Welcome to the club!

Nancyshoemake (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
thanks Natalie....this is a strange connect. .....something I try to explain to my husband....but I just love this site.....I feel challenged.....bitched at (by precious Kevin)......humanness by you......New Yorkishness by Freddie.....legal stuff by IRSfixer.....and just plain knowledge by D&T.....what else can I say....this is totally cool!

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2008
Oh, don't try to explain it to your husband. He will probably never understand, well, unless he likes Hooters. (That's another good search word.)

Belle (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2008
Hey, you guys moved to a different playground!

Nancy, please DO NOT bring your husband into this...most spouse's (unless tax preparers) wouldn't be able to handle what goes on here.

Natalie, do you think Tim would give 'us' our own forum to put all of the slightly bizarre, hijacked etc threads in? (starting with the "stale dated payroll checks, etc" (i'm ad-libbing but that's close) one? <sidebar - Nancy, if you haven't read that one, make it a priority after the 15th>

Altho - I really thinks it's only fair that the newbies have to sift thru the garbage (aka as legitimate tax research questions) to find out how much fun 'we' are having.

OK, done stalling. I've already decided to pull an allnighter in order to get a gnarly S-corp and the related indivual returns done by 10:00 am tomorrow

And Fred, is that dictionary in print? Or would that fall under the 'evidence we wouldn't want to fall into the wrong hands' catagory.

g'nite

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
Nancy,

There's another thread that Pierce started called, "What's the best thing that happened to you today?" or something like that with more of Fred's antics, It's legendary as well.

I will let you search for it as that's half the fun of this site is looking for this stuff.

My wife doesn't get it either. She has no clue. I've shown her a couple of threads and she just rolls her eyes.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2008
Tom, what on Earth are you doing up at this hour? What is it there -- 5:30 a.m. on a Saturday?

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
Actually, I was up at 5:15am, and it's now 6:00am.

I woke up actually at 3:30am and went back to bed.

Yesterday I was up at 4:45 -5:00am. Crapped out at 8:30pm.

I am trying to catch up.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2008
Well, just remember it's not worth getting sick over. Maybe you should join Fred in his little venture. You guys can go to Hooters together and set up camp. (Oh, definition for Fred's benefit -- "Camp" in this sense is just a figure of speech. No need to talk about sleeping over or anything like that.)

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2008
Oh, you missed the nervous breakdown I almost had yesterday. I ran out of here at 8:30pm to the grocery store just to get out. My dad came over to keep me going. He saw how exhausted I was and just said to go to the bedroom and lie down, which I did.

I might have to find a new assistant. She's just been so inconsistent this year and when she comes here, she's on the phone to her kids, surfing the 'net if she "thinks" there is nothing to do, when she's got tons of work. I constantly have to show her things over and over again.

I just looked at the volume of returns I've gone from since 2004. Back then I had 80-85 clients. Now, I've doubled that amount. But, I am probably going to have to get rid of some to keep my sanity by raising my fees.

But what's worse are the clients who showed up after April 1 demanding they be finished by Tuesday. I will get about 5 more done by then, but the rest are on extension. I am not going to cave to them for their procrastination no matter how easy they think their return is.

Fred, about the bar idea, I will entertain everyone, you can prepare the returns. If I did that, I would never, ever get a return done as I would be talking to everyone.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2008
I'm glad to hear your dad was around to guide you.

As far as this little venture with Fred goes, I was thinking you could actually set up a grill outside and offer your specialties. I hear pizza and beer go real well together.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

13 April 2008
A formal reply shall be forthcoming. I am taking time to properly put into words the things that must be said. I will allow the words to sink in and then a rambling reperetoire of non connected thoughts shall flow fervently through my fingertips onto the screen.

Until the thoughts are ready. I bid you adieu.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 13, 2008
Snooze you lose, Fred. We have things we have to get done if you and Tom are going to do this venture the right way. And we still need to take care of the campaign, too, so here's what I was thinking. I know you're going to love this -- Freddy merchandising!! Yes!


Freddy mugs for the beer.

Freddy t-shirts. Tom can come up with a slogan for that. (Fred, you're not allowed to have any input on that one.) We can use these for dual purposes - to market the venture and drum up support for the campaign.

Freddy tequila bottles, etc.


I'm sure Belle, Tom, Nancy, Action, Pierce (once she gets out of the branding fields) and others will have other great ideas.

Now we need a logo for this. I have a few ideas, but I'll wait to see what others suggest.

Round 'em up, Cowboys and Cowgirls. Let's move 'em out.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

April 13, 2008
We will have to get a website set up also........need a good domain name.

Natalie, you forgot Freddy shot glasses for the tequila. And we'll need to hire some of those Hooter's girls to 'fill out' the T-shirts. (I'm not interested in THAT job !).

I'm not very creative, but one of my worker bees is - I get her juiced up with some wine (she's not a tequila buddy) and set her loose on the logo idea.

More to come, once the caffeine kicks in.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

13 April 2008
Alright Fred - I have a photo of me up, we have to have one of you. At least I had the guts to be seen in a kilt for crying out loud. This way someone can "Photoshop" the darn thing and we can get some t-shirts, mugs and shotglasses made.

Now, I will start working on a slogan.....

Tom

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

13 April 2008
Fred,

Nice photo. Is that you on the left after some tequila? Image:bigsmile.jpg

Tom

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

13 April 2008
I'm the bear on the right after the tequila. lol. I'll add myself, I think I have a real pic here somewhere.

That pic was the setting of a ritualistic hat burning after the Jets kicked some patrios a$$ a few years ago. Was around halloween on a Monday Night Football pool night out so we decorated the stage so the bet could be paid. was probably 10 years ago and I still have the burnt hat carcass in the bottom drawer of one of my filing cabinets.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 14, 2008
Shot glasses -- good idea Belle. Domain name is a natural, I think. How about FreddyWorld.com?

I can see we might need to hire a fashion consultant or two. Anyone have any clients in that area?

Fred, do you have anything else hiding in closets that perhaps ought not be there? DON'T tell me what they are, just have Tom help you take care of them.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
After seeing Fred in the NY Jets shirt (and was that a mullet he was sporting?), he's going to need all the help he can get with his fashion sense.

We know Fred as at least one skeleton based on his photos....

Tom

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
No mullet Tommy boy.

Just a dark picture. And of course I have skeletons. We all do. I just like to hang out with mine.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
Good to hear Fred. I was a bit worried. It looked like one at first, but was sure it might have been a shadow on the photo.

Of course, in New York, it could have gotten you beat up to have a mullet.

Tom

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
Tom,

Many know the saying - if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger.

Here in NY we say

If they don't kill ya, it just makes you more determined to hunt the bastages down, maim and torture them and then bury the bodies where no one will ever find them.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 14, 2008
Gee Fred, it's sounding more and more like you're going to have quite a payback when you get elected.

AllThingsFreddy.com

FreddyForPrez.com

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
That's when I send the Hooters Hot Hit Squad into the field for all the necessary covert and underthecover actions that need to be handled discretely and efficiently.

They will bounce from place to place handling the things that I need handled.

Does anyone else wish to misbehave?

Just raise your hands and I will send them to handle you too.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
I plan on misbehaving Fred. Can you have them handle me, please?

Tom

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

14 April 2008
How come I knew that you would be one of the misbehaving ones? Imagine that. And I'm the one the women gripe about. Guess, if I burnt down the house a few times I'd have a teflon screen name tooooooooooooooooooooooo.

One more day.

Time for tequila

Belle (talk|edits) said:

April 15, 2008
'They' will 'bounce' from place to place...nice visual. And I'm SURE that's what you meant to say when you thought no one would think you knew what you weren't saying and didn't mean anyway.

Seventeen hours to tequila....I've set up a 'shrine' of the offerings client's have brought to me (except the GS cookies, ate them, didn't keep the box). The tequila is front & center, ahead of the wine, flowers, jelly beans, and cheesecake. Cheesecake will be gone before 10:00 pm.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

15 April 2008
See, again you misunderstand Ms. Belle. I always know exactly what I meanto say. Natalie gets upset when I let her know what she actually meant to say as opposed to what she typed.  ;-0

I love Tequila time.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

15 April 2008
I go to Hooters for the food, Fred. Image:bigsmile.jpg

Actually, I have not been to a Hooters for ages. Last time I went, I took a friend. He was absolutely insulted I took him. He could not believe any man would ever go there. Funny thing, a few months before that, I was with some lady friends with the Institute for Management Accountants and they wanted to go to Hooters. I reluctantly took them, but they had more fun than I thought they would. One said to one of the waitresses, "Honey, if I had that body, I would wear that outfit everyday and hubby would never leave the house!" The waitress looked at us and said, "Are you really accountants?" I nearly passed out I was laughing so hard.

Anyway, our slogan could be, "If your taxes aren't becoming to you, you should becoming to us!" or "Taxes? We don't need no stinkin' taxes!"

More to come as my brain recovers from an 18 hour day four days running. One more day of getting up at 4:30am.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 15, 2008
Now Fred, I don't get upset. Remember, I have two small boys, and I realize sometimes it takes a while for certain things to sink in. I just need to keep reminding you of the facts. That's okay.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

15 April 2008
Fred,

Did Natalie just infer that "boys" are dense? She may have just insulted us.

Heck, who cares? Off to do another return!

By the way, this trick of using toothpicks to keep your eyes open doesn't work. It hurts your eyelids and puts holes there.

I am using another trick. A woman in a Hooters outfit standing next to me sweetly telling me, "Come on Tommy boy. Get those returns done now!"

Oh wait, I'm hallucinating.

Tom


Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 15, 2008
Actually, it's just Fred. See, Fred just has so many things going on . . . you know, voices, tequila, etc. All I'm saying is it takes a little while sometimes.

And Tom, what are you doing with toothpicks? It hurt just reading your post!

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

15 April 2008
Actually, taking a shower woke me up, sort of....

Heck, I was kidding about the toothpicks, but I was hoping the Hooters hallucination was real....

I can't wait for the bar to open tomorrow.....

And, by the way Natalie, what time is it in your neck of the woods?????

Tom

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

15 April 2008
Hey, we'll be done before she even starts. yeeee haaaaaa

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 15, 2008
Tom, when I made that post, I think it was about 2 a.m. Boys just headed off to school. I think I'm going back to bed.

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Hey again. Yes, I'm back from the branding fields. We had two guys here I didn't know - was that any of you? (Seriously, friends are inviting their friends, and I have to introduce myself to people who show up.) Missed you all.

Could you refresh me on the train of thought here? Is Fred still in the race? Very photogenic, by the way.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Why wouldn't I be in the race? Oh yeah, tom's sabotage techniques. He goes off and says all sorts of chauvinistic thingamabobs and I get blamed for it. I bet he's even using it in real life. He does something and wife of Tom gives him look and he just goes "not me, Fred"

HHHS <Hooters Hot Hit Squad> must be sent again. tom is due another round of punishment.

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Are you winning?

The only hooters we have around here are the owls.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Who

Nancyshoemake (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
gotta love him!

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Fred - I just get along better with women. I've got three sisters who brought me up right. My wife knows I joke about going to Hooters all the time, but I haven't set foot in the place in ages. If I did, my picture would be on the side of a milk carton.

For some reason, I am reminded of a great line from the Benny Hill Show. He's getting into bed with an old hag of a woman, just after the last of the children has gone to sleep. He turns to her and snarls, "Goodnight, mother of eleven!" She says, "Goodnight, father of one!" He has this great look of comic surprise.

Somehow Fred, why do I picture you as poor old Benny Hill in this case?

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 16, 2008
Ouch.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
I have Fred pictured as a guy in short, baggy pants, those huge tennis shoes, glasses with those eyes on springs that pop out all over the place, and a hat with two cups, one on each side with straws down to his mouth. One cup has lime juice and one has tequila. He carries worms in his pocket just so they can added it to the Marguerita. Tom, on the other hand, stands by the barbecue dressed in full on fireman's clothes and is flipping hamburgers. If they actually start this venture, think of how professional they will look! And I love the slogan about "if your taxes aren't becoming, you should becoming to us". Think of the business all this would drum up!! Pierce, were you really out branding critters? Maybe you can be added to the photo with your branding iron and you can brand all our new clients so we don't lose them to Liberty or H&R Block.

BTW, when I was in LA, I actually saw some guy dressed up as the Statute of Liberty and waving a "get your taxes done" sign outside a Liberty office. I wonder if he was the guy who owned the place?

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Fred,

I am only joking. I hope you realize that.

The milk carton thing isn't a joke, though. That's what would happen to me if I were ever seen in Hooters, a strip club, etc.

I have a client with an interesting sense of humor. He's always flirting with women but yet his wife is gorgeous. One day, he faxed some of his tax stuff with a very racy autographed photo of an NFL cheerleader stuck in the middle. I never even saw it until my wife brought it to my attention. I was paying for that for a week.

Tom

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Yes, dear Action, really and truly. Was serious about Tom cooking, but maybe next year. Lazy F-T brand may do nicely for the campaign. Agree with you on the picture of Fred, but now I see he's a football player. That really is your picture, right?

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Tom, I am sad and in tears. I am very sensitive you know. No worries mate.

That really is me Belle, although I am not a football player, just a fan. Have many good football trip stories though. Some I could actually tell you about.

Action, I taught the beginner class this year for the local Liberty Tax office in this area. Brought the new students into the break room to show them the uniform they had to wear while preparing taxes. Now, the uniform my preparers have to wear come straight from victoria herself. <EG>

Hey, how bout a bikini tax maid service, that should bring in the customers.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

16 April 2008
Pierce,

I'll be up there if you want. Just need to plan better for next year. I just love some good steaks.

Fred, do you think the women will let us get away with the bar with Hooter's style waitresses complete with uniforms and the bikini tax maid service? We could make a killing.

But, do you think it would kill your presidential aspirations?

Tom

Belle (talk|edits) said:

April 16, 2008
Fred, you can tell me any of your stories....I'm just like 'one of the boys'.

I think us girls (me, Natalie, Pierce....)should have male staff/preparers dressed like the Chippendale Boys....

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

17 April 2008
There you go Annabelle,

There's the venture, top floor is you and the girls and the chippendale guys, basement is the bikini taxmaid juice bar preparation area and the middle floor will be the TAO BBQ and beer and fireman test center section.

And Belle, we'll talk after our litte <separate> getaways.

And as for the campaign, it would be awesome idea. It's time this country had a true down to earth person there instead of the pony up to special interest try to hide who they are pantywaists trying now. Last few elections it's not who is the best, but let's select the lesser of two evils. Pathetic.

time to get the laundry and pack my bags.

Cya guys and gals, off to campaign in South Carolina.

And I will be posting thoughts for an after tax season vacation getawy for next year. too early this year but next year, taxalmanacers hit the road. the 2012 compaign shall begin.

toodles

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 17, 2008
You sure have some good ideas Belle. I'll help with the interviews.

Tom, from what I've read about the politicians in this country, the bikini tax maid service will probably be a bonus for Fred's campaign, as long as he's open about it. It seems the ones who get into trouble are the ones who say one thing and do another or deny their actions altogether.

Fred, remember to take along some Freddy t-shirts when you go.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

17 April 2008
What happens in Freddy World Stays in Freddy World.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

June 12, 2008
Tom, I know you have a lot on your hands. I was just wondering if you've worked out your plan with Fred yet. The way I see it, he should be helping you with your clients. He has a vested interested in your well being and your client base.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

12 June 2008
No, can't say I have as of yet. Could use the help, though. I just learned I have arthritis in my neck and what appears to be an MS lesion located near it which will pretty much confirm what the doctors suspect. I now have to see a neurosurgeon about what to do about it.

I can't ride any more roller coasters per doctor's orders. That stinks.

And the hits just come on coming.....Image:bigsmile.jpg

Tom

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