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Crr1210 (talk|edits) said:

30 March 2007
Hello -

As of 12/31/2006, I had a retained earnings of $2,000. I want to distribute this to myself. The question I have is how to make the accounting entries in quickbooks. I have created a new Equity account called "Distributions"

I tried out two options. But not sure which way is correct. Hence deleted both transactions. Any pointers or help would be appreciated.

Option I - Wrote a check for myself thereby crediting cash and debiting Distributions. In this scenario the software is showing a '-ve' entry of $2000 in the balance sheet. Retained earnings stays same as $2000.

Option II - Did a journal entry by crediting "Retained earnings" and debiting "Distributions". In this scenario the software is showing a +ve entry of $2000 against "Distributions" and retained earnings become 'Zero'. If this is a preferred approach how will the cash account get affected.

Or is there a different way to record these. Thanks in advance.

Southparkcpa (talk|edits) said:

30 March 2007
Simply write a check to yourself and code it to distributions. The distribution account is an equity account and will have anegative balance AND your Retained Earnings should stay at $2,000.

On 1/1/08 of next year, you credit dist and debit RE for the balance in Distributions.

Crr1210 (talk|edits) said:

30 March 2007
Thank you very much.

Joe189 (talk|edits) said:

25 April 2007
After giving a distribution check are and IRS forms required to be filed?

I keep reading and hearing about K-1 Distribution. K-1 Tax Form only a year end filing?

My spouse is the only employee and is CEO of our S-Corp. I am CFO not being compensated. I know in my spouse's previous S-Corp Partnership the partners recieved a quarterly K-1.

Your Comments are appreciated.

Sandysea (talk|edits) said:

26 April 2007
No quarterly K-1's...maybe a quarterly report...are you publically traded?

Joe189 (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
Thanks. Not traded. When must distributions and salary be paid out? Can I pay a quarterly salary to qualify max SEP-IRA contribution then lump the excess as a shareholder distribution at the end of the year after the SEP-IRA contribution is made?

Pegoo (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
You mentioned K-1, what about the other share holders? No distribution for them?

Joe189 (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
This new S-Corp has only one employee/shareholder recieving payment. I got the K-1 idea from my spouses previous partnership. So I guess that does not apply now? Can one be a S-Corp Officer without being a shareholder? Also, this S-Corp is for my spouses business the only one working in it. I am the CFO to run the books etc. I only want to salary/ditributions to my spouse? Can I be a officer and shareholder without recieving any payments? Married filing jointly.

Thank You

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
Shareholders in an S Corp receive equal distributions from the corp and the profit at year end is split equally, salaries can be different, but the distributions and profits to each shareholder are to be equal, so if there are 2 shareholders each will receive a K-1 indicating 50% of the profit, which on the books will go to their capital account, distributions are made from the capital account. If there are 4 shareholders, each will receive a K-1 indicating 25% of the profit. BTW, it's not a suggestion, it's a requirement. Have you issued K-1's for the previous year?

Joe189 (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
No K-1s ever issued on this newly formed S-Corp. Thanks

Pegoo (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
Yes you can be a officer without any skin to the SCORP but you just said that you wanted to take $2000 check and write it to yourself as a distribution. Joe are you and the OP the same person?

Joe189 (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2007
Pegoo, Sorry not OP. No I will not recieve any income. I realize now I have used these discussions wrong and should have started new string. Thanks for the answer

Viking (talk|edits) said:

28 December 2007
Actionbsns,

I happened to come across this post and wonder what you meant by "Shareholders in an S Corp receive equal distributions from the corp and the profit at year end is split equally".

Shouldn't Corp income (or loss) be split according to percentage of stock ownership? Can you please explain?

Belle (talk|edits) said:

28 December 2007
Distributions have to be equal, based on shareholder ownership percentages. Actionbs made the assumption (I think) that if you had four shareholders, they would be 25% each. However, it could be 10%,10%,20%,60% = 100%....it's based on # of shares owned. The K-1's show the % of ownership (Part H).

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

1 January 2008
Viking - just a thought, when leaving a personal message, it would be helpful if you would be kind enough to complete your profile.

Belle's comment is correct. In all my S-Corps, the shareholders are equal, so their splits are equal as well. I just took on a client that is an S Corp with a 99% SH and a 1% SH, splits are based on this percentage.


Pegoo (talk|edits) said:

3 January 2008
Sole Shareholders of and SCORP for tax purposes are considered be 100%. You need to check with the person that incorporated you and work on getting the books straight.

SCORP = 1120 S --> K1 --> ur 1040

For the share value, booked at PAR, and whatever you put in on top of par per share is APIC.

It wouldn't matter for your share price per year as it is just abitrary of what it might be worth based on EPS. The problem relies on taxation of the income.

SM LLC would have suited what you were doing. Not sure who recommended you to INC then elect SCORP w/o telling you the proper filing requirements.

Also, SM SCORP = 100% not 51%.


Pegoo (talk|edits) said:

4 January 2008
Par = Par value of stock, the minimal cost of the stock. I believe the Par value per share is listed somewhere between your Articles of Incorporation.

APIC = Additional paid in capital.

Authorized: 3000 shares, but 1501 shares went to you can still be 100% owner as the rest are just treasury stock. For tax matters you are the 100% owner. If the 1499 shares are issued to someone else (aka your lawyer), you might have issues there.

Do you still have a copy of your form 2553 somewhere?

Both LLC and SCORP offers some sort of limited liability but that area can get very complex and it depends on various situations. Can't really get in depth on it.

Do you have a book keeper or an accountant? You might need to back track to the begginning of the corp and start from there....

The 1120S income / items will go to a K1 which then flows to your 1040. The SM LLC goes directly to your 1040 SCH C.

Check your form 2553 for ownership allocation for tax purposes and might want to retain a book keeper or accountant. They don't cost that much =)


Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

5 January 2008
Dani - you really need to find another tax preparer. This is too complex an issue to try to handle yourself. Regarding the liability question and the par value issue, different states are different. (Some states require a par value.) You need to speak with an attorney regarding the liability question.


Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

5 January 2008
Turbotax (and similar products) are fine for very basic personal returns (W-2, a couple of kids, house mortgage). Otherwise I can't really recommend them. ESPECIALLY for a corporation. Here's an example: do you know how to calculate the basis for your corporation?

Do you perform your own surgery, cut your own hair, fill your own cavities? Most people go to a professional for these things. Your money is important too. That's what professionals are for.


Uncle Sam (talk|edits) said:

6 January 2008
It's obvious from your post Dmcnicho - that you want to be one of those do-it-yourselfers. You have previously been advised by other posters to this thread that you really need to seek professional tax assistance.

Practitioners on this board are really here to help each other out as tax professionals. That's what this board was ORIGINALLY MEANT for. What you're seeking is free advice.


Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

6 January 2008
No one "performs" a basis. If you don't know what your basis is, you don't know what numbers to show on your 1040. It's not as simple as just plugging in the numbers from the K-1.


Uncle Sam (talk|edits) said:

7 January 2008
Dmcnicho-We've had people like you on this board before who keep persisting that they know better than to seek professional help and attempt to do things on their own. If you've had a bad experience with your prior accountant, then search around for different one - who perhaps specializes in providing accounting/tax services to day care centers - as they have special tax needs.

But to continually ramble on with your wanting to do things on your own, the more stubborn you are, the more ridiculous and idiotic you sound.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

8 January 2008
"I have filed many returns in the past, many complicated returns that even H&R block didn't understand and filed these correctly."

This is a frightening statement!

Melody (talk|edits) said:

14 January 2008
Hi to all! Thanks God I have found this site. Its really meant to me. I have a lot of questions need to be answer as I have been tasked the work where I have just only few ideas..

My question is. Is Inventory Provisions belong to INCOME STATEMENT or BALANCE SHEET? In what part should be recorded? Can you explain to me where thus Inventory Provisions comes from? and How does it Called INVENTORY PROVISION.

Please answer those questions and let me understand clearly. As i read some some topics and discussions in this Furom, I believed this is the answer of all my question about accounting matters.

Bottom Line (talk|edits) said:

15 January 2008
Not really sure what you're referring to when you say "inventory provision". "Inventory" is an asset and would appear on the balance sheet.

Mochadaw (talk|edits) said:

January 15, 2008
I haven't heard of that either but inventory provision sounds like a concept to adjust inventory to NRV under GAAP.

Melody (talk|edits) said:

21 January 2008
Thanks for the replies. Actually, yeah! inventory should be recorded in Balance Sheet cause its belong in Current Assets, but whats made me confused was the worked I've been followed with the former accountant we have before, whom he worked as a GM in one prestigious Bank here in Bahrain right now. The bank where I submitted the work he does in 2004 have questioned me about this "Inventory Provision",. I have nothing to say but refused to answer their Question cause i have no sure idea what Inventory Prov. was..Anyhow, thanks for those answers.

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