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TJGADWELL (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
I have a client who has received half of her ex-husbands 401(k). Does she have to pay the early distribution penalty. The 1099R is coded 1. Can I just exclude it on the 5329?

Jusducki (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
Yes, she has to pay the 10% penalty if she was not 59 1/2 on date of cash distribution.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
I think there is a provision for "incident to a divorce" somewhere

CATAXES (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
QDRO... Income is taxable to her, no 10% penalty no matter what her age is.

JR1 (talk|edits) said:

February 1, 2007
But gotta have the QDRO in place or she's hosed and the attorney dropped the ball. TJG, that stands for Qualified Domestic Relations Order...

Glmpllc (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
I believe it's the ex-husband who's hosed if there is no QDRO

JR1 (talk|edits) said:

February 1, 2007
Good point. So why is SHE getting a 1099R then? Normally, he'd get the 1099R but not the money, aka 'hosed' without the QDRO. So are to presume that there was one, and that she then cleared out the money, creating the 1099R to her? Seems the only plausible option.

Glmpllc (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
JR1...seems more likely

JR1 (talk|edits) said:

February 1, 2007
So, the first answer was correct, and disregard all the rest.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
Huh, then what is line 1F on the 5329 for, if she took the money thru a QDRO incident to divorce. This is not an IRA. Maybe I don't understand the phrase 'alternate' payee.

Yogafan00 (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
CATAXES is right. Husband's contributions to 401K were pre-tax. If ex-wife didn't roll over to an IRA of her own, she is liable for the tax. I believe that the only way the plan administrators would have release 1/2 of husband's 401K to wife is thru QDRO.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
That is what I am saying...JR sent us to the 10% penalty...fie on him :)

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
no, JR tried to correct the partial answer I gave

Mauro (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2007
TJ See Sec. 408(d)(6).

It explains what you are looking for

JR1 (talk|edits) said:

February 1, 2007
OK, so CAT's answer is the correct one. Details details.

TJGADWELL (talk|edits) said:

2 February 2007
Thanks for all the info

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