Discussion:Post your profile - where is Kevin?
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| 9 May 2008 | |
| Today I have fallen in to the trap of answering questions before checking profiles. I will be more careful. If you are new you should post your profile to get the best repsonse to your question. This is a free site, you will get good quality advice, and to tell the rest of us about yourself is not to much to ask. I am going back to my norm of not repsonding to a post until I see the profile if I do not recognize it. | |
| 9 May 2008 | |
| I think that your idea of not responding to a post unless you see a profile is an excellent one.
However, that's not what you're doing - you're responding with a demand to see a profile. Keep in mind, please, that profiles are not required. They ARE strongly recommended, and you are 100% correct that profiles contribute to getting more, and often better, answers to a question. But by the time your new guy posts his question, he's passed up two opportunities to update his profile. Once, when signing in as a new user, and once when clicking on the start a new question button. He's made a choice to ignore the requests - and oddly, no matter how strongly we change the wording on those pages that you click through (about profiles being really, really important), people continue to ignore the request. And while I wish we had a separate board where DIYs and people without profiles could post, and the rest of us could answer if we wanted (and as you can see, there are plenty of people who really aren't bothered by a lack of a profile), that doesn't seem to be something Tim wants to do. Just like Tim could make adding a profile mandatory - but he doesn't. So I'd just ask everybody, please, to follow rules 3 and 8 of the Code_of_Conduct - don't bite the newcomers (or the DIYs). Either say nothing at all, or politely explain - just as Lance did in the post above - why a profile is important. | |
Msmith7305 (talk|edits) said: | 9 May 2008 |
| Trillium-
Thank you for your post. I also get annoyed by the profile police. If you don't like a poster not having a profile, just don't respond. | |
| 9 May 2008 | |
| Agree with Msmith7305. Sometimes it seems like a significant group here wants to enforce their own idea of the rules rather than recognize this as a public forum with its own, perhaps more lenient, rules. Perhaps there are fee-based forums available for those who are uncomfortable with this forum's rules. | |
| 9 May 2008 | |
| Well, I should check the poster profile first. Agree. I think the profile should be required. At times after I realize I have answered and no nothing about the person, I worry I may have given explosives to a juvenile for instance. Don't want anyone getting hurt. I remember first joining, and jumping in to some threads, and Kevin asked me to update my profile. Somehow I had not thought about it as being important. When asked, I did it. I became aware that some people felt I was important enough to find out about. Again, I think the profile should be required. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| This is not a public forum. It is run by Intuit for tax professionals. I strongly concur that a profile should be required for a whole host of reasons. | |
| May 10, 2008 | |
| I think Kevin OD'd on TA during tax season and is now taking it in moderation. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| If a questioner will show some effort to post his profile, then many more people will respond. If a questioner doesn't want to 'give' but only 'take' then he gets what he gets. The community of people requesting profiles is bigger than the community who doesn't care. TA is a community. Yes, Natalie is correct. I don't bother to answer most questions now because they don't fill out a profile. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| To the Profile Police -
If it's not required - then why be judgemental about it? I continually see here answers to posters' questions where it's obvious they're not tax professionals by the way they word their questions - yet this board continually boasts about its existence FOR professionals, but doesn't discourage those seeking free advice. Maybe having some more Beatle Freds post here will frustrate the leaders of this board to take action. I've previously made suggestions to Tim Doyle about how to restrict use - but since he works for Intuit - he has to abide by what they tell him, and can virtually disregard suggestions others make. | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 10 May 2008 |
| I try to answer intelligent questions without looking, but Lord it is so hard when they begin "My client" and then go on to reveal themselves as something other than a 'tax pro.' So sarcasm raises its ugly head Discussion: Sale purchase of stocks security, but I prefer snark to asking for a profile. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| I have to agre with those who say to relax. I have repeatedly said that if you don't like the song being played, then change the channel. Ignoring the posters is the best method for thos of you who do not want to be bothered. This is a public forum even if it's intended for professionals. How many times can it be said, don't want to, then don't answer.
I still don't understand why the powers that be just don't add a DIYer area and then all will be right in the world. The repeated bashing actually takes away from the forum because now true professionals become afraid to ask questions in fear of being deemed stupid. I can guarantee that some read a DIY question and say, yeah, I had the same question, yet were afraid to ask. I really think we should ask Aunt Em. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| "This is a public forum even if it's intended for professionals".
It's either one or the other but not both simultaneously. If it's a public forum, then drop the "tax professional" claim. The reason Tom Doyle won't change things here, is because despite what his motives and intentions are, he has a "higher authority" to answer to - Intuit - a corporation that continually promotes conflicting interests simultaneously. | |
RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said: | 10 May 2008 |
| Well, if I want a profile to be filled out before I answer a question, I ask for the profile. That is my decision, and I made it for my reasons, which I don't have to justify to anyone. I answer questions with a simple yes or no, to a complete post of, what I think, is the relevant cites.
From the owner of this site to what other poster think or want I don't really care. However, I try to be professional when I post. (I know I am very trying.) I have not posted on this site very long, nevertheless, I started posting under the impression that most of the posters were tax professionals. Sad, I now find that a lot of the questions reveal that the poster is trying to do something, which in my not so humble opinion (IMHO), would require more complex and professional answers that is beyond my ability to post to this forum. Some of the question are from non-professionals and some are from people who should be professional, as a result, the responses to some of my posts are very confusing to me. Those of you who refer to the profile police are as much outline as those of us who are profile police, we, all, are allowed to use this site until we are branded. Everyone, go have another Latte with whatever is your favorite favor. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| To bad the post from non profilers could not be in red ink font or soemthing. I also, as D&T suggested, try to answer intelligent looking questions without looking. They are in a hurry so they do not do a profile. We are in a hurry so we don't check. Actually, I have new computers with 3MB mem, and the TaxAlmanac site is the slowest site I go to. It takes pretty long to answer a post, go to the profile, go back to tax questions, check the post, etc. I don't think its my computers? They are new with lots of Memory. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| I have good memory too. Like I tell people. Mind like a steel sieve. | |
| May 10, 2008 | |
| I'm with Roy and Dale on this one. It is what it is, and it's not our job nor authority to alter it. So deal with it and move on. If you want to create your own universe, go for it. | |
| 10 May 2008 | |
| Sandy chiming in....
THIS IS THE INTERNET FOLKS!!!! Can someone not just copy and paste some resume they find online and fill out a profile? Who checks it? I think if you want to answer, answer..if not, then just be silent!! Mama always said..."If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything"....so for Mothers Day I agree!! Hey my new profile: I am a 20 year old petite female who just graduated at the top of my class....hehehehehehe Instead the truth is...well nevermind...it is the internet.... | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 10 May 2008 |
| Lance, right mouse the name and open their 'profile' in another window. | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 10 May 2008 |
| You have to do the right mouse/open before you open the discussion (presuming your browser has tabbed browsing like Mozilla or IE7) | |
| May 11, 2008 | |
| D&T thanks for that tip. I didn't know that could be done. It doesn't have to be done before the discussion is opened, however.
Fred, you crack me up. I'm glad to see you're back to your old self after your vacation. I agree it would be nice to have a DIY forum. | |
| May 11, 2008 | |
| A DIY forum would be ideal, at least in a fantasy environment.
'Us professionals' could go there when we want to answer Q's, from the goodness of our hearts.. (or just for the humbling experience when Q's are asked that 'we'- or is it just me - have to think hard to answer on occasion). The cynic in me doubts that DIYers would restrict themselves to posting only to that DIY forum.... And as Sandy says above.....a profile can be as fictious/creative as one desires. I like her 'proposed' version. Fantasies are a good thing, IMHO :-). | |
| 11 May 2008 | |
| Shame Shame JR....
A profile is anything the mind can imagine. I actually have met some people from the internet and lo and behold it amazed me.... I have talked to people on the phone and even that is misleading....you can say anything you want. If there is a site that can challenge to actually PROVE credentials, then this would work, if not, then here is my new profile. "Hey!! I am a 27 year old professional CPA, EA, passed the Tax Court Exam in flying colors and am a partner in a major firm in NYC. I started preparing tax returns with my father when I was 18 years old and then went to Baylor to finish at the top of my class with an MBA. Price/Waterhouse/Coopers hired me right out of school as I could use a 10-key faster than anyone they have ever seen!! I prepare 1200 tax returns per season and of those 1000 are corporate clients. The other 200 are friends and family that I cannot neglect now that I am rich and famous!!!"...hehehehehe Instead this is the truth (or at least the truth according to the internet) I graduated high school, wanted to go into nursing but instead raised children. Worked as a bartender to put myself through college and then took the CPA exam in 1989 in FL. I passed after the 2nd try. I worked for Coopers and Lybrand in the audit department and then took a position in a privately held CPA firm to gain experience in taxation. I resigned in 1995 from public accounting and went to work for churches in the area. Decided in 2003 that I would try to form my own small business and here I am!!" So which is correct? AHHH the Internet; any could be disguises..... | |
| May 11, 2008 | |
| Ahhh, man, that totally messes up my pictures of Sandy at the blender. Well, will have to flip on that remote webcam I got set up I guess. Aunt Emmy tho'....no, couldn't even sell those pics. | |
| 11 May 2008 | |
| HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
I still want to be known as the accountant who serves Draft Beer at the office :) OMG just kidding here.....if you say that, I will DENY IT!!!! | |
| May 12, 2008 | |
| Sandy, you are correct that people can put down whatever they want, but unless they are really good at lying, I'm sure they'll blow their cover eventually. | |
| 12 May 2008 | |
| OH NO!
In reading the comments that profiles may not be true it occurs to me that Riley2 may be a prison inmate who is using this forum as his own personal Second Life! I'm doomed for sure. | |
| 12 May 2008 | |
| ROFLMAO. What has happened to you people. This used to be a self respecting place where professionals could go without fear of the corruption that pervades the 3d world. Now, and I have no idea how this happend, Sandy is sitting at home doing taxes in this amazing looking bikini and serving drinks with umbrellas in them. Aunt Emmy is typing all nekked and stuff <I got a few clients that might like that Em>, Belle is revealing her fantasies <more, more, please more Baby Belle>, Natalie is, well, we all know about Natalie, and now I find that Riley is a prison inmate with a webcam and a bunch of squirmy squiggly soap thingies.
Where will it all end. | |
| May 12, 2008 | |
| I want to show this thread to those clients who think tax professionals/accountants are boring.....but I'm afraid they wouldn't respect me in the morning <w>.
Perhaps, in addition to a DIYer forum, we need a 'fantasy forum'. Profiles WILL be required, and they can't an ounce of truth in them; the more creative the better. The more creative ones can be submitted for a creative writing award, similiar to the awards currently posted to the real profiles. (Baby Belle?!*? Sounds like those little cheese thingys that are included in Christmas food baskets) | |
| 12 May 2008 | |
| Sandy has no bikinis...hehehehehe but thinking about it in this heat.
I like Belle's idea...Baby Bella? Great cheese....ok I am getting "cheesy" | |
Michaelstar (talk|edits) said: | 12 May 2008 |
| Sandy - don't do that to JR1 and me - we already have this made up image and there is no turning back...........
I personally could care less about who leaves a profile or not. After being in this business this long, it is easy to determine ones level by the questions that are asked. If one knows the answer - leave a post to the question. This site is a learning tool for many professionals - if you do not want to pass on your knowledge because someone did not leave their profile - that seems a bit shallow to me. It is not a requirement of this site so accept it and strut your stuff. As Sandy has pointed out - who is to say that the profiles placed are even reality. Most are I hope. The only time I check out ones profile is when one leaves a really great answer or when one makes an a$$ of themselves by hammering someone else who tried! | |
| 12 May 2008 | |
| The only time I check out ones profile is when one leaves a really great answer or when one makes an a$$ of themselves by hammering someone else who tried!
Well-spoken! | |
| 12 May 2008 | |
| Michael and JAD, I could not agree more. And whether this is wrong or right, when I am in a rush, it is sometimes easier to post a question here rather than doing the research. We should all be able to research our questions, but sometimes time isn't on my side. If someone has the correct answer because they just had that situation, hopefully they will share it with me and I get my answer in 5 minutes via a quick post. On the flip side, if I know the answet to a question, I will try to give the answer. sometimes research is required, but sometimes, a quick yes or no from someone who knows is all that is needed and that's the beauty of here, I can get the answer quickly, and only the kittens get hurt. | |


