Discussion:NYC UBT-Unincorporated Business Tax

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AZIKEL (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
Client has a 1065 LLC and is in the real estate business. Went into contract on a property and then flipped it 3 weeks later before closing to another party and made $250k.

1) Short Term Capital gain? (This way he does not have to pay FICA) 2) If this is a STCG is it subject to NYC UBT of 4% or not?

Please let me know your thoughts!

Taxref (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
Since the client is in the business of buying and selling real estate it is ordinary income, not a capital gain.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
My thought was getting a definition of 'real estate business.' Is it holding properties for rental and managing them? Or being a broker? People who own art galleries can run into this when they acquire paintings for their own wealth accession, as investments.

Taxref (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
Good point, D&T.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
I missed one thing; if he bought the property in the name of the LLC it would be a partnership item on the K-1 so the art analogy does not fit.

Blrgcpa (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
NYC UBT is required if the client livws in NYC.

Uncle Sam (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
NYC UBT is required if the BUSINESS ACTIVITY IS CONDUCTED IN NYC - not necessarily where the client personally lives.

NYC-UBT is not incorporated on the NYS IT-201,3 forms. It's a tax that is paid directly to the NYC Department of Finance.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

8 November 2007
One thing is for sure if you have dealt with them: the position the NYC Dept of Finance is going to take!

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