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Jigisha (talk|edits) said:

6 April 2006
Can you claim the medical expenses for the deceased who is not your dependent but you paid all the medical expenses?

Jdugancpa (talk|edits) said:

7 April 2006
No

SandyAZ (talk|edits) said:

7 April 2006
Interesting you should ask that question. I lost a client this year who said someone from H & R Block assured her she could deduct considerable medical expenses she paid for a nondependent relative because he died. Is this a tax "urban myth"? I can't find any way to take it but my ex-client didn't want to believe me.

Klesher (talk|edits) said:

7 April 2006
Yes - You can claim medical expenses - code section 213A - person does not have to be your dependent but can claim medical expenses. I have 2 clients this that pay for their Dad's nursing home. Dad has over the $3200 income , so client cannot claim as a dependent - but can take medical expenses.

SandyAZ (talk|edits) said:

7 April 2006
In that case they would qualify, I think, because your client is paying over half the support of the dad. My client (ex) was paying medical expenses for a nephew (40ish) with a job, etc. She definitely wasn't paying over 50% of his support. I think the support issue is key.

Jigisha (talk|edits) said:

8 April 2006
Thanks for the reply.One more question,can you claim funeral expense as a medical expense?

Sw (talk|edits) said:

8 April 2006
NO

Jdugancpa (talk|edits) said:

8 April 2006
Dang, my copy of the Code does not include Section 213A. Must have gotten it a bargain bookstore.

However, my Code Section 213(a) states: "There shall be allowed as a deduction the expenses paid during the taxable year, not compensated for by insurance or otherwise, for medical care of the taxpayer, his spouse, or a dependent (as defined in section 152, determined without regard to subsections (b)(1), (b)(2), and (d)(1)(B) thereof), to the extent that such expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income." This would seem to mean that the individual must be a dependent. But those subsections referenced may preclude a dependency allowance due to the dependent filing MFJ with spouse, or income too high, etc. But the other tests of dependency still must be met.

Reg 1.213-1(3)(i) also states: "For medical expenses paid (including expenses paid for medicine and drugs) to be deductible, they must be for medical care of the taxpayer, his spouse, or a dependent of the taxpayer and not be compensated for by insurance or otherwise. Expenses paid for the medical care of a dependent, as defined in section 152 and the regulations thereunder, are deductible under this section even though the dependent has gross income equal to or in excess of the amount determined pursuant to ยง 1.151-2 applicable to the calendar year in which the taxable year of the taxpayer begins. Where such expenses are paid by two or more persons and the conditions of section 152(c) and the regulations thereunder are met, the medical expenses are deductible only by the person designated in the multiple support agreement filed by such persons and such deduction is limited to the amount of medical expenses paid by such person."

So while my brief answer may have been technically correct, Klesher's answer, though technically incorrect, points to something that is worthwhile noting, namely that medical expenses paid for a dependent for whom no dependency allowance is claimed are deductible by the taxpayer. Thank you, Klesher, for educating me on this point.

Dennis (talk|edits) said:

8 April 2006
(b)(1) can be dependent of another taxpayer (b)(2) can be married and file a joint return d(1)(B) can have more income than exemption

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