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Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
Hi all,

I was installing my Taxcut today and realized that I needed an EFIN to e-file customer returns. I applied for e-services and am waiting my confirmation code so that I can complete the on-line application for e-file and obtain an EFIN.

In the application, it asks me what kind of provider I am. The definition that my research indicates is correct is an ERO...electronic return originator. Rookie question, but is that correct. Since this is the government, I want to get this right!

I am an Accountant (Non-CPA) that will be doing a few returns this year and I want to offer e-file as part of this.

Thanks, Michael

PostingFromWork (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
ERO would be correct. It is pretty confusing.

The confirmation package for e-services takes a while to get to you by snail mail. Mine took ~2-3 weeks.

For your e-file application, be prepared to wait at least a month for acceptance to the e-file program. You'll also need a fingerprint card (Since you are not a Circ 230 proffessional) to send in to the IRS. It should be ~$25 at the sheriffs office.


PS. TaxCut for a professional? Duuuude, the kids that use TaxCut always got wedgied at recess, and at lunch they got the swirly.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
Has anyone received their Efile package from the government yet this year? You know, the stickers and the wall chart showing when refunds will come....got it wrong, you had to order the stickers and the wall chart, but the information was in the package along with a letter confirming the number.

PostingFromWork (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
No stickers, but we've got the refund cycle chart.

Rgtaxservice (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
No confirmation letters anymore. From the IRS website:

Since Authorized IRS e-file Providers are able to obtain their own proof of e-file participation status and provide it to other Providers as needed, the IRS will not mail Annual Mass Acceptance (welcome back) letters for the 2008 filing season. Registered users of e‑Services with authority to view e-file applications can obtain proof of the Provider’s e-file participation status.

San Diego (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
I wouldn't count on efiling this year if you just applied...

Rgtaxservice (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
Be sure to use the fingerprint cards the IRS sends you. I used the ones from the local PD and the IRS would not accept them. If I remember correctly, it had to do with the color of the ink on the card itself. Red was for IRS, Black for FDI, Green? for another agency. It was something stupid like that....very hazy recollection. Although I so remember being p*ssed quite vividly.

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
Posting from work....

I just gave myself a wedgie....I meant to type TAXACT...ACT that is! :D Too much, or not enough coffee! :D


SanDiego, I am wondering that myself! I hope I can get them all efiled this year. I won't lose any clients over it though, even if I have to pay my arse of a Brother in Law to file them through his e-file program. I should receive my e-services code shortly and then can submit the e-file application online then.


I sure do love...err hate...err love...the IRS! :D


Michael

Rgtaxservice (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
I just used the e-services to get a summary copy of my authorization. What a PITA to more around that part of the site. It's not quite where the directions said they should be.

HAPPY TAX (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
Archer, I'm sure you already know this but just in case. If you do use your brother-in-law as an ERO for returns that you're paid to prepare, make sure he follows the "Other Paid Preparer" procedures when he efiles them. They're kind of obscure, and I don't even know how they would work for 2007 returns since I don't think the Form 8453 would be used for this anymore. Come to think of it, I don't know how to do this anymore. In the past, if you were only the ERO for a return prepared by another paid preparer, you had to use Form 8453 vice Form 8879. You would mark the original Form 1040 (the one with the paid preparer's signature) "Do Not Process - Other Paid Preparer." Then you would mail the 8453 with the 1040 attached to the IRS. In that manner, the IRS would have each party's signature, i.e., yours as ERO, the paid preparer's, and the taxpayer's. How it would work this year, I don't know because I think the 8453 can be used only for the attachments listed on it. I guess I'd better hope it doesn't come up, but I know it will, usually twice a tax season. Maybe the whole Other Paid Preparer fiasco is satisfied by showing the information on the 8879.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
Thanks, RG. Where did you get the chart, PFW?

HAPPY TAX (talk|edits) said:

12 January 2008
IRS Pub 2043

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

13 January 2008
Thanks Happytax, I really appreciate you taking the time to provide all of that information. I will find a way, I suppose.


The IRS says that it should only take 45 days so I should have plenty of time! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!


I am calling tomorrow to get my fingerprint card on the way and I should be able to transmit my efile application within a week or so (waiting on the code from the IRS). That should put my application approval around the first of march or so. I think that most people (I am only doing personal returns and flow through LLC's this year) will not have all their information together until that time anyway. I suppose that I will be okay time wise but we will see.


Thanks all for the help....darned IRS. You figure that they would take ANY e-filed return and no make it so that you have to jump through so many hoops.


Have a great day all!

Michael

San Diego (talk|edits) said:

13 January 2008
Hate to burst your bubble, but don't count on it. 45 days may be a good timeframe at anytime except for tax season. Let us know when you receive your EFIN.

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

14 January 2008
Will do!


It's always the little things and given that I am dealing with the government, I will be happy if I ever get it. I am just surprised that they do not charge a tax in order to become an e-filer.


It seems to me that they could do each and every bit of this nonsense on-line and immediately.


I think that every single one of the moonbats out there harping "I want 'free' government healthcare" should have to apply for a home renovation permit and try to sign up for e-file so that they could send the government it's money (or at the very least streamline the processing for the government) a tax return! :D


Thanks all, Michael

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

21 January 2008
I received my confirmation code on Saturday and I submitted my e-file application same day. I have the fingerprint cards and will get myself printed in the AM tomorrow and the cards sent ASAP.


I think I will be okay to e-file by April 1....I hope. This will hopefully be the last of my surprises.


Michael

TaxNovice 1 (talk|edits) said:

21 January 2008
Good morning to all. Just one question regarding the Efile. Last year was my first year efiling. Do I have to re-register with the IRS and CA to do th efiling this year.

Thanks

HarryEA (talk|edits) said:

22 January 2008
No you don't, fire away!

Lion (talk|edits) said:

22 January 2008
I didn't apply until 23 December (problem with my EIN being deactivated by the IRS) and received my EFIN 5 January! They were really burning rubber. Good luck on yours.

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

22 January 2008
Lion,


Are you sure that your friends didn't pull some sort of practical joke on you? If you are, are you sure you sent it to OUR Government? :D


I filed the application on the 12th of January and I just mailed my fingerprint cards. So we will see how long it takes. I think I still got in early enough that I should have it by March, I hope.


Michael

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

1 February 2008
In the way of an update, I moved from Submitted Pending Documentation to Submitted New (they obviously received my fingrerprint cards--mailed a week plus ago) as of today's date. It looks like they might be a little slower than yours Lion. My background check should be routine as I have already been checked out by employers, cub scouts, CCW permit, etc. If I am not passing, priests better watch out because I am squeaky clean--not even a ticket in 21 years of driving.


I will be fine...my clients have a lot of 1099 income and prefer to wait to ensure they receive all documents before filing anyway. I am confident I will get it before time to file.


Michael

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
It's official, I am spongeworthy! :D


Although I haven't received official confirmation, I looked on-line and I have been assigned an efile number and show as active!


So I submitted officially on January 21 (I think that was it), mailed my fingerprint cards on January 22, the IRS officially acknowledged receipt on 2/1/07, and I received my EFIN on 2/2/07. That's blazing fast to me!


Michael

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
Congratulations, Michael! The speed is because IRS has a vested interest in signing up EROs; the more there are, the closer they get to their 80% goal.

DZCPA (talk|edits) said:

3 February 2008
Now use it and make lots of $$$$$$! Good Luck

Newtaxguy (talk|edits) said:

4 February 2008
Hey Spongeworthy...

Congratulations.

I also got an efin the other day, and my status is "active". My ERO status is "applied". I'm not sure if I should be able to file yet.

What is your ERO status? And have you been able to e-file yet?

The New Tax Guy (newtaxguy@yahoo.com)

Newarcher (talk|edits) said:

4 February 2008
Newtaxguy,

I haven't tried....I received the email from the IRS telling me I was active and my status shoes active with a time and date stamp. I wonder if they forgot to update something on yours. I would call the IRS E-file help desk....they were actually pleasant and helpful to me! :D

New

Griffinkjsr (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
NewArcher,

As of 2/23/08 I just got my efin on-line application completed. The fingerprint cards were sent in weeks ago. Hope I get the quick turnaround you did. Please continue to post any experiences with your efin and ero activity, since I am about 3 weeks behind you.

Newtaxguy (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
griff,

in my limited experience the irs takes as long as they promise they will... no more, no less.

TheTinCook (talk|edits) said:

25 February 2008
Just a note for people applying for e-file:

If you are a Circular 230 professional and want access to the incentive products, you need to add a comment on the "Add Comment" section of the application stating that you are a Circ 230 professional and that you need access to the incentive products.

This is the work around suggested by the e-services help desk. When I applied, I thought that my EA number supplied elsewhere in the return would be enough. The fix took only a couple of days and a phone call.

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