Discussion:How to claim startup costs

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RonL (talk|edits) said:

7 December 2005
Here is a complicated question ...

I lost my normal job in June, they paid me 6 months severence, total yearly payout so far .. about 100k. To survive I had to pay off most of my bills, plus cash in a piece of my reteirment bucket (another 60K) Total now 160 K . I decided to start up a small buisness, bought 25 k worth of equipment, plus 5 k of material. I sold about 5 k so I am breaking even at this point .. living off the bank. This is not working well enough to survive, so I am going to take another regular 9-5 job. Plus keep the buisness open on the side. ... I want to deduct my equipment and whatever I am allowed on my vehical (2004 - Avalanch) to reduce what I might owe on my employed and retirement income. So, Can I do this ? and if I can How much buisness do I have to show in subsequent years so the IRS doesnt dissallow my startup costs, calling it a hobby..and wanting their money back...

Anuenue (talk|edits) said:

7 December 2005
All your answers are in the Small Business Publication from the IRS.

Set up costs are amortized. Equipment is depreciated. You can take additional depreciation but it could be a waste of money to take the maximum allowed. If the business is a loss for three out of five years the IRS generally considers it a hobby. anuenue

RonL (talk|edits) said:

7 December 2005
Ahh .. but the answer to my question ... What is considerd a business that is not a loss ..

Is making 1 or 2 K enough to be considered a sucsess or does it need to be up in the 10 - 20 K range ?

DZCPA (talk|edits) said:

8 December 2005
You can write off all 25K of the equipment by electing a 179 deduction even if you have a loss on your Schedule C since you have enough W-2 income. Any amount of profit is fine. The IRS looks at all kinds of factors more than actual profit to determine if you are in business or a hobby. A business CAN lose money more than 5 years in a row and be still considered a business with proper facts and circumstances. The hobby determination is not a sure thing. Write off all related expenses. Do not worry about the size of your loss. You are entitled to write them all off.

DZCPA (talk|edits) said:

8 December 2005
Costs incurred before you are able to start collecting fees are called start-up costs are are to be amortized over 60 months.

Brandenburg Financial Inc (talk|edits) said:

8 December 2005
There is now a provision to deduct $5,000 of expences as start up.

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