Discussion:HSA Box 12 W
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DAVETHETAXGUY (talk|edits) said: | 21 February 2007 |
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My client has box 12 "W" dollar amount of $2787 for a health saving account. The dollar amount is the employer contrubutions. He also a form 5498 Distribution from an HSA with a gross distribution of $861. what is the taxable amount. He used the $861 of qualfited medical expenses. what line on the 1040 and what dollar amount I filled in the 8889 form Also PA taxes on the HSA Thanks | |
| February 21, 2007 | |
You will need to ask your client the following questions: Self or Family plan, # of months in the plan in 2006, the annual deductible amount, and the HSA value at 12/31/06.
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| February 21, 2007 | |
| Here is a worksheet that you can print to use when you get code W on W-2s and 1099-SAs: | |
| March 12, 2007 | |
| Is the Code W the value at end of year (amount not used) or the employer contribution (as per code description on back of W-2 | |
| March 12, 2007 | |
| Code W on the W-2 form is the employer and/or the employee's pretax contributions. The value at the end of the year can be found on the December statement. | |
| 20 March 2007 | |
| Deb,
Would the only time an employee's contribution be added to box 12 is when there is a cafeteria plan? Otherwise just employer's contribution in box 12? I have a situation, if I am interpreting this correctly, that I think is wrong.
Family plan with 11 months into the plan ($4,996 deductible) Balance on 12/31/06 - $2120 All 1099-SA withdrawls used for qualified expenses
I told my client that the amount in box 12 was wrong and should only include the employer's contribution. If the amount in box 12 was reduced to the employer's contribution, the line 25 deduction would be the employee's full contribution and the penalty is elimiated. Am I missing something here? My client questioned his employer on this and they said everything is fine and should be left as is. Three other employees also questioned the employer. This is the employer's first year offering the HSA. Thanks. | |
| March 20, 2007 | |
| Pretax contributions are included in Box 12 with code W. Therefore, that amount of employee's pretax contributions included in Box 12 are not deductible on the employee's 1040. Be sure to enter the ending value of the HSA on Form 5329. Doing this should eliminate the penalty. | |
| 20 March 2007 | |
| Entering the balance does not eliminate the penalty. The penalty is on the excess contribution for last year (In my email above, I called the amount a distribution ...but meant contribution). I believe the maximum for total employee/employer contributions is the deductible.....correct? | |
| March 20, 2007 | |
| The maximum what?
You've entered something wrong somewhere. Enter $4,000 under code W on the W-2 worksheet. Fill out 11 months, Family plan, and a deductible of $4,996 on Form 8889. Show zero for contributions on Form 8889. There should be no penalty, and Form 5329 doesn't need to be prepared. Remember, the amount on the W-2 form is for the employer contributions and for the employee's PRETAX contributions (which are not deductible, since they aren't taxable). Delete what you've entered for employee's contributions and go on to the next tax return. | |
| 21 March 2007 | |
| Thanks Deb. The 8889 contribution was included. When I eliminate this...the penalty is gone. Thanks again for your help. I really do appreciate it. | |
| 17 March 2008 | |
| I've learned a lot on HSA from this thread. So all HSA contributions show up as a "W" on the tax form? Ex: No employer contributions, but we contributed "$2500" for 6 months. It shows up as a W. We paid out $950 in medicals. Turbotax doesn't show any deductions taken to lower the tax. My W2 shows total wages and the lower wage after 401 is taken out. I've read over 8889 about 15 times (not sure I totally understand). Where do I see how my taxes are reduced? | |
| 17 March 2008 | |
| I've learned a lot on HSA from this thread. So all HSA contributions show up as a "W" on the tax form? Ex: No employer contributions, but we contributed "$2500" for 6 months. It shows up as a W. We paid out $950 in medicals. Turbotax doesn't show any deductions taken to lower the tax. My W2 shows total wages and the lower wage after 401 is taken out. I've read over 8889 about 15 times (not sure I totally understand). Where do I see how my taxes are reduced? | |
| 17 March 2008 | |
| Chaukasu: TurboTax has idiosyncracies in how it handles HSAs. Therefore, you're going to be a lot more likely to find an answer to this question over in the TurboTax forum: https://ttlc.intuit.com/app/full_page. (Do a search for HSA and see if the answer might already be there.) Here, in a forum for tax professionals, you won't find many (if any) TurboTax users. | |


