Discussion:Form 941, Line 1
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| 28 April 2008 | |
| I bet I've prepared 1,000s of Form 941 over the past 22 years and as much as I hate to ask this dumb question, what in the world goes on Line 1? I know the language changed a few years back - I think it used to say only March 12, maybe? But, even the instructions are vague, at best. Does it mean number working specifically on March 12, June 12, etc? Or, number working anytime during that quarter (which is usually what I put) that includes March 12, etc? Or, what? DUMB, dumb question! | |
| 28 April 2008 | |
| As far as I know, it's the number of employees paid for working on that date. | |
| 28 April 2008 | |
| I've always read it as the number of people paid during the quarter that includes that date. | |
| 28 April 2008 | |
| I have always put the number of employees paid for working that date also. On the WI unemployment return we list it for every month during the quarter and I use the same theory for that as well. | |
| 28 April 2008 | |
| I guess for me that is the same thing since I only do payroll for companies that pay quarterly, so it is one and the same. | |
| April 29, 2008 | |
| "The number of employees on your payroll for the pay period including March 12." I interpret that to mean anyone who will be paid during the period that includes March 12. So if pay day is March 15, and 10 people are paid, the answer would be 10. Note that there are some exceptions, for example, people in "nonpay status" during that period. | |
| 29 April 2008 | |
| Well, I'm rather glad to see that there is some confusion beyond my own. Honestly, I wonder what importance this is. SUTA report for NC requests the same information as WI apparently does. You show number of employees on the 12th of each month (it's even more confusing!). Just curious, Natalie, and not meaning to be sarcastic because I understand what you're saying, but what if your pay day is March 10 and you pay 10 employees on that date, 5 quit that day and on the next pay day, which includes 3/12 do you put 5? | |
| 29 April 2008 | |
| LJA - I thought the same thing - and it seems absurd. This is a quarterly report - what is the meaning of this number on a quarterly basis??? | |
| April 29, 2008 | |
| My understanding is, yes, you would put 5. In fact, I just had a client who had two employees who were paid 3/8, and then they were none. So zero was entered on line 1 in that case.
I think this number is used for statistics of the number of people on payrolls. | |
| April 29, 2008 | |
| In California, we also have to fill in the info by month (# working on 12th).
I believe the main purpose is for statistical purposes, altho EDD seems to use it for unemployment issues too. I've always filed it out as Natalie states above, based on a literal reading of the instructions: # of ee's paid during the period including the 12th. I would just LOVE to know the significance of the 12th of the month in all of this.... | |
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