Discussion:Estate-asset valuation no DOD appraisal

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ReadMyLips (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
I am preparing a 1041 for an estate that was under $2m, so no 706 was required. Client died 3/1/07 and her home was sold on 7/1/07 for $1m. There was no formal appraisal as of DOD; since the home was sold close to that date, and the market was fairly consistent at that point, I was going to use the sales price as the DOD value. There was about $100k in closing costs that I was not going to take as a deduction (would result in a $100k loss). Does this sound reasonable/correct? Any similar experiences?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
[try this search first]

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
Discussion:1041 and Loss on residence and expenses and this

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
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ReadMyLips (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
Ok thanks for the links, I think it's pretty clear that this property was not converted to income producing property, so no loss.

Thanks Kevinh5.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
In the 1998 SCA, the IRS didn't say 'no loss', they said that the loss belonged to the beneficiaries.

ReadMyLips (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
Well, since there was no DOD valuation, we don't have an exact value--is it the $1m or the $1m - $100k? Or something else?

In this case the beneficiary is a trust. I will look at 1998 SCA again. http://www.irs.treas.gov/pub/irs-sca/1998-012.pdf

Thanks.

Blrgcpa (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
States vary. There may be an estate tax for the state, even though there is no federal tax.

Blrgcpa (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
Since the sale date was close to the dod, I'd say there no gain or loss. The net sales price is the FMV.

Notax (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
Can you call the bank and tell them that there was no change in market value from 3/07 to 7/07?

WIBadgerCPA (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
I would use the sales price as FMV. I wouldn't use the net sales price. Selling cost are just that, selling cost. The FMV shouldn't change depending on the amount of the selling cost.

ReadMyLips (talk|edits) said:

22 September 2008
CA doesn't have an estate tax, so that's ok. The immediate beneficiary is a trust; the assets will eventually go to Canadian residents.

If there was an actual DOD appraisal I would say yes to deducting the selling costs. But since it's an estimate, I'm not sure that's appropriate.

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