Discussion:Debt relief fee

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Taxking00 (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2009
Have a client that used a debt relief company to consolidate their debt. They paid a fee to the company, would this fee be tax deductible?

Skasselea (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2009
Why would it be?

Taxking00 (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2009
That's what I am thinking....client asked if it would be, so I am checking.

Skasselea (talk|edits) said:

11 April 2009
No, it's not.

Taxking00 (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2009
Actually, having thought it over why wouldnt it be... the fee produced income (debt relief). WHy wouldnt the fee be considered investment expense subject to 2%? Investment fees paid are deductible if they are paid in an attempt to generate income. THe debt consolidation company created income by getting debt relief.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2009
Taxking, you are seeing the big picture, but only judges can do that.

I'd take a look at the statutory language very carefully, and give the words their dictionary interpretation (narrow). Maybe there are some TC cases that have dealt with the definition of investment.

I would guess that a judge would hold that the primary purpose of the advice was to reduce the debt, and that the generation of income was a necessary nuisance. No one wants to generate this kind of income.

Jdugancpa (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2009
Be happy to, Crow. Loan me $100 and then hit me with the 1099-c. I'll be happy to pay the gov't its fair share.

TheTinCook (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2009
A cursory reading of §121 and §1.121-1 does not seem to offer any grounds for parsing it based on the "nuisance" income.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2009
lol. What I'm saying is that it's not investment advice... the man's primary purpose is not to generate this income when he hires the debt adjuster. Now, of course, in the bigger picture, I think Taxking has a point: paying off a debt can be an excellent investment.

Applelady (talk|edits) said:

12 April 2009
And when you reward bad behavior you get more bad behavior.

Deback (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2009
Was there any taxable income due to the debt relief? If so, you might want to read the following:

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p529/ar02.html#en_US_publink100026974

Deback (talk|edits) said:

April 12, 2009
Legal fees related to producing taxable income are deductible on Sch A, subject to 2% of AGI.

Skassel (talk|edits) said:

13 April 2009
99.9% of these companies are not law firms.

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