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Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 24, 2008
Day 6 - the bird seems to be doing well. Lots of stuff going in and lots of stuff coming out. He flew up into a tree yesterday. That was interesting. We put a make-shift bird's nest in the box so the bird gets used to it. I love watching the boys play with it in the back yard. I keep reminding them, though, that soon he'll be able to go out on his own.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

24 March 2008
Did you say lots of stuffing?

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

24 March 2008
If Natalie is stuffing the bird prior to cooking, that bird is going to have to cook a long time just to cook the stuffing thoroughly. That bird is going to be very dry.

Tom

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2008
Good Job Natalie and boys!!!

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 25, 2008
Pictures? We all need a pick-me-up (well, maybe not Fred)

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2008
why don't i need to be picked up. I like perky too. <G>

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 25, 2008
Fred, I should have expected you to twist that around. "Stuff" going in = ground up bird seed. And "stuff" coming out is the doo doo doo doo.

He's getting plenty of liquid, Tom, so he's not going to dry up.

Thanks Action.

Belle, you really have to watch the words you use around Fred. If we were having a face-to-face conversation, it would be easy to explain Fred's responses because we'd all be able to tell he's hard of hearing. Since this is all online, however, I'm not sure which explanation I am thinking of is the correct one. I'll see what I can do about pictures.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2008
Natalie, I hear very well thank you very much. The fact that you say something and you don't even realize you mean something else isn't my fault.

What we need to do is to help you realize what it is you actually mean prior to saying it as opposed to after me responding to what you actually meant. <G>

PHIL MOODY (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2008
Natalie, around here, even the duck hunters pay special attention to handling wild birds.

Avian flu and all that.

We have even stopped feeding them in our back yard, using containers that we touch. We now just scatter the bird seed on the ground, or on top of the snow/ice.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 25, 2008
Point scored for Fred.

Phil, I had thought about that issue. I think the risk is extremely low in our case. The risk is higher for ducks and other poultry, especially in Asian countries, so I understand your concern.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 25, 2008
I MEANT pictures of the cute little bird; would put a smile on all our faces.

I'm not sure what pictures Fred may have been hallucinating about....can guess....but not going there.....

Natalie, one of my favorite memories of my Mother (rest her soul) is of her letting me bring home all sorts of injured critters to try & save. Some made it, most didn't, but we tried.

What you are doing is teaching your kids a valuable lesson of kindness and tolerance for the less fortunate. Good job!

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

25 March 2008
Kick em while they're down and eat em when they die.

I need that massage. Haven't had one in a while.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 26, 2008
It's me and the bird in my office. The boys went to the beach. Belle, I'll see if I can get a picture this afternoon.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

26 March 2008
I guess the bird hasn't flown the coop, yet.

Now Natalie, if a whole bunch of birds start showing up near your home, don't stick around. Look what happened to Tippi Hedren.

Oh wait, that was a movie. Oh well, can't be too careful.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 27, 2008
I still need to get a picture. Now we're working on trying to get the bird to peck at its food. That is challenging.

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

27 March 2008
What kind of bird? Do you see many of the gorgeous, colorful ones?

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2008
Pierce, we have bright yellow ones that come to our lanai every morning in anticipation of eating, then there are little tuxedo birds with red heads, and bright red cardinals. They are my personal favorite. On Oahu, where Natalie is, there is a great bird that has to be in the cardinal family, but it's bigger. He's gray and white with a bright red head and top knot like the cardinals have. We don't have that one on Hawaii.

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2008
That's great! My son loves birds - has memorized the field guides, and has 8 bird books. Unfortunately, Magpies are the most colorful ones we see for six months. Oh well, sandhill cranes are back, and the pretty ones are starting to show up as well.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 28, 2008
We have piliated (sp?) woodpeckers here - midsized birds, black with a white collar and a BIG red spot on their heads-beautiful. They can be destructive if they start on your wood siding, but beautiful. A baby, in a snag behind my office, lost BOTH parents two summers ago (too long & sad of a story for now). I called our local wildlife folks; we effected a rescue of the baby; they rehab'd it. Last spring, a 'teenage' piliated woodpecker showed up back here at my office.

I like to think it's the same one, as it warms my heart. Hope he/she's back this spring too.

Actionbsns (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2008
Pierce, your kids would love the little sandpiper we have here. It's mottled brown and cream colored. I was eating at an outdoor restaurant at one of the resorts a while back, out by the beach and a group of them kept bugging everyone for food. This one grabbed a french frie, and carried it around kind of like a cigarette, he was so proud of himself and the others kept trying to get it. It was just hysterical watching them, he finally flew off down the beach with the french fry in tact.

You might check Amazon.com for a great bird book my grandkids got for Christmas, and sorry I don't remember it's name. But it has wonderful pictures and the descriptions are excellent - for the 10 - 15 age group I'd say. The great thing about it is it has a recording of all the calls, so the kid can read about the bird, see a great picture and hear it's call. My grandkids have to share the book, and it was the most popular gift they received. It even beat out the Game Boy. There's also a great website, if your interested I'll write it down and enter it here, it's run by a group from Stanford. They watch a couple of Peregrin Falcons that nest in the Financial District of San Francisco each year. Some years they are able to place cameras so they can watch the emerging baby, from egg to fledgling. It's a great thing to turn on the computer and see it while it's happening. I think they also have past year pictures.

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2008
Thanks. Will check out the website.

Have you seen the Nat'l Geo "Really Wild Animal" series? Great for learning and fun too.

Have a similar book by Audubon. Doesn't have all of the calls, but some. Also, a "bird identifier" thing with different cards for different types of birds' calls. Great fun.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2008
I recall watching a "Gone Wild" video, might it be the same one? <running away, fleeing>

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

28 March 2008
no

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 29, 2008
Fred, you'd better run! I'm going to ask Tim to start banning you from certain discussions!


Most of the birds around here are brown or grey, but we do have the nice red cardinals and the little "tuxedo birds" as Action calls them.

Fsteincpa (talk|edits) said:

29 March 2008
ROFL. I've been stayin away from this one, but Pierce left that one wide open. I couldn't resist.

I was bad. Me Bad, Me sorry. Me not sorry. Me now confoosed agin.

-)

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 29, 2008
Yea, right. You know exactly what you're doing, Fred!

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 31, 2008
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Natalie (talk|edits) said:

March 31, 2008
Well, I found out today the bird is a Bobo. Bobos eat mostly fruit, e.g., mango, papaya, bananas, and worms and crickets. The bird got weaker over the past couple of days, so I took it to a lady who volunteers for the Wild Bird Rehab Haven. She recommended she keep it because it needed to be nursed back to health, and she said she would take it to the vet. She also said that it is illegal in Hawaii for people to keep wild birds unless they are licensed and that if I took it to a vet, the vet would be required to keep it. Now I have to break the news to the boys when they come home.

Pierce (talk|edits) said:

31 March 2008
Sorry.

Great picture though, and pretty neat while you had it.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

March 31, 2008
Oh Natalie, I'm sorry. Your boys will be upset. Maybe try to explain that it's better for the baby birdie.....so it will get stronger and get to be wild again.

Thanks for the picture, and cute kid!

Belle (talk|edits) said:

April 2, 2008
Natalie, how did the boys take the news?

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 2, 2008
Well, my youngest was more disappointed than the oldest. That may be because my oldest had more responsibility for the bird. My youngest's response was, "When will I be able to pet it again?" I took it harder than both of them. The bird slept in a box in my room. Every night I would check to make sure it was okay. I fed it often and of course reminded the boys to clean up after it.

We're going to visit it on Friday. The woman who is taking care of it said it already looks better. Diet makes a big difference, and if I had known what I know now, he'd be doing a lot better at this point. I think he's going to make it, though, despite my naivete.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

2 April 2008
Natalie,

You did more than Fred would have done. Fred would have given it a tequila drip with a splash of lime and maybe gotten some Hooters Girls to pose with it.

Rumor has it he's trying to ply several other women on the board with alcohol (one name seems to ring a Belle....)

Tom

Belle (talk|edits) said:

April 3, 2008
I RESENT RESEMBLE THAT REMARK !

Just made a big pot of coffe (no tequila/brandy/anything) in it as it's going to be a loooong night.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

3 April 2008
Belle,

I am glad you got it! I was worried.

All I do these days now is go to bed early and get up before dawn.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 3, 2008
Tom, you get to go to bed early???? I go to bed after midnight every night and get up early with my boys. (Gotta pack those lunch boxes with all kinds of good stuff.) In fact, I know it's been a really late night when the east coast guys start posting in the morning, and I'm still here. Hmmmm.

Taocpa (talk|edits) said:

3 April 2008
Natalie,

I go to bed at midnight and wake up around 4:30am. I then wake everyone up around 7:00am, then I get everyone out the door after I make lunch for my daughter. My wife makes her own. Then I go back to work. Sometimes I still notice you here at that hour. I am now frankly exhausted. I have to knock off around 8:00pm for a couple of hours, just to maintain some sanity.

Tom

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 3, 2008
Well, "early" is relative, isn't it? Now we know.

Rosendale (talk|edits) said:

4 April 2008
We've had a great horned owl nesting in the backyard since early January. It's been quite a sight. Last Saturday we finally saw one baby peek it's head up in the nest. The babies start out all white, but with dark eyes and beak.

I thought with the writer's strike there would be no distractions this season, but this has been equally entertaining.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 4, 2008
An owl -- that sounds neat. Who needs TV? There's plenty of stuff to do without it. We haven't had cable for over eight years, and I don't miss it one bit.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

April 5, 2008
We visited the bird today. He is doing MUCH better. He's perching on a stick and eating papaya on his own. He's also getting a bird formula and vitamins every day. I felt much better, too.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

June 13, 2008
I guess we did the right thing by taking the bird that lady. He's now in a cage with two or three other birds. He's still being hand fed. The woman expects to be able to release him in a couple more months! We're going to try to visit the bird next week.

Belle (talk|edits) said:

June 14, 2008
That's great news Natalie. I'm really surprised that it's taking so long for him/her to be ready to go out on his own; never owned birds, thought they matured faster than that. If you're lucky, when he's out on his own, perhaps he'll return to where you found him and you and the boys will get to 'visit'.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

14 June 2008
Natalie, I am sorry, however,

http://www.raptorfoundation.org.uk/greathornedowl.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=owl+range+hawaii

Please, check again.

Thanks,I love birds, and they can be good to eat.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

14 June 2008
Maybe you and the boys could start a diary of the bird sightings.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

June 14, 2008
?Roy? I'm not sure why you're apologizing.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

14 June 2008
Because, I disagreed with the type of bird.

However, if you are correct you get to be the first to report an expansion of the Great Horned Owls' territory.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

June 14, 2008
The bird we had is a bobo according to the woman we took it to. The only reference to an owl was regarding the one Rosendale mentioned, so I don't think an apology is necessary.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

14 June 2008
Just goes to show you that the new eye spectacles ain't any better them old ones.

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