Discussion:Anybody done an "except for FIN46" opinion letter?
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| 19 March 2008 | |
| I've got a situation where one co. purch another and want me to do audit on the target but they are not going to purchase the FIN46 entities (real estate holdings), so it would be a waste of money for me to audit those for the purchase. Are there other options for an audit type engagement? Maybe I can audit elements of the FS?
Thanks, MJ | |
| March 19, 2008 | |
| I haven't worked with FIN46, but it sounds like this might be a scope limitation. Are the real estate holdings going to be included in the statements you are auditing? | |
| 19 March 2008 | |
| That's probably one of the more common GAAP departures that you will find in audit opinions that are qualified. I've done a couple. Just make sure that you modify the report accordingly and cover your bases with respect to the related party transactions that are involved (ie that they aren't playing with net income by using unusually high or low rents etc). You'll just have to qualify the report. Here is an example report:
As more fully described in Note X to the financial statements, the Company’s financial statements do not include the accounts of FIN 46 Entity that the Company has determined is a variable interest entity and in which the Company holds a variable interest and is the primary beneficiary entitled to receive a majority of the FIN 46 Entity’s residual returns. In our opinion, the Company’s financial statements should include the accounts of FIN 46 Entity to conform with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America. The effects of this departure from generally accepted accounting principles on the financial position, results of operations, and cash flows of ABC Company are not reasonably determinable. In our opinion, except for the effects of not including the accounts of FIN 46 Entity in the accompanying financial statements as explained in the preceding paragraph, the financial statements referred to in the first paragraph present fairly, in all material respects, the financial position of ABC Company as of December 31, 20X1, and the results of its operations and its cash flows for the year then ended in conformity with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America.''
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| 19 March 2008 | |
| Make sure that the departure isn't so pervasive or significant that an adverse opinion would be warranted. Probably isn't given that they are real estate entities but just CYA. | |
| 19 March 2008 | |
| I thank both of you for your thoughts. As additional insight, the company making the purchase is not buying any interest of the FIN46 entities and thus will not have an interest in the real estate. I thought about a "specified elements" type engagement. The client is only interested in us auditing the things they are purchasing, but the purchase is for 100% of the stock of the "operating company." From a related party transaction perspective, those will go away after the purchase, but the engagement will be done before the shares change names.
The numbers for the land and building and the balance sheet of the land/building holding companies is material to the consolidated FS, so I'm worried about doing an "except for" since all the CPE classes I've gone to say we can't just dismiss FIN46 and use the except for as a crutch... but I've seen opinions with them in there. If I could do that then I'd do it, but I feel like later the peer reviewer might be a bit cranky with me. I looked in PPC audit reports and found this information about another possiblity: REPORTING ON A SPECIAL-PURPOSE FINANCIAL PRESENTATION THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A COMPLETE PRESENTATION BUT ONE THAT IS OTHERWISE IN CONFORMITY WITH GAAP OR OCBOA 1307.1 Auditors may be requested to report on a special-purpose financial presentation prepared on a basis of accounting prescribed in a contractual agreement or regulatory provision that does not constitute a complete presentation of historical financial position or results of operations, but is otherwise in conformity with generally accepted accounting principles or an other comprehensive basis of accounting. For example, a regulatory agency might require a schedule of gross income and certain expenses, with expenses defined to exclude such items as interest, depreciation, and taxes. A lease agreement might have a similar requirement. Also, a buy-sell agreement may specify a schedule of certain assets and liabilities which, although measured in conformity with generally accepted accounting principles, do not constitute substantially all of the company’s assets and liabilities. Reports on such presentations are covered by SAS No. 62 at AU 623.23–.26. SAS No. 62 requires the following: ¯ The presentation should be regarded as a financial statement (even though, as indicated earlier, certain items might be excluded). ¯ The presentation should differ from a complete financial statement only to the extent necessary to meet the special purpose for which the presentation was prepared. In all other respects, including note disclosures, GAAP should be followed. ¯ For expressing an opinion, materiality should be measured in relation to the presentation taken as a whole. | |
| March 19, 2008 | |
| If you are a member of the AICPA, you might want to check with them on this. It sounds like you have a couple of significant things to be concerned about outside of the normal audit. | |
RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said: | 20 March 2008 |
| Also, could be an agreed upon procedures audit, they still do that don't they? | |
| 21 March 2008 | |
| I think I'll be doing either a "tax basis" audit if the tax basis is accrual basis, or a "specified elements" audit for the items the Stock Purchase agreement says they are purchasing and restrict the use of the opinion only for the purpose of the purchase. I think that is reasonable. | |
| March 22, 2008 | |
| So, if the books are prepared on the tax basis of accounting, then they wouldn't have anything in there related to these properties? | |


