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Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
My 1031 Exchange Worksheet tells me the following information results in boot received. Yes, this was all done through qualified intermediary and qualifies for 1031 Exchange.

Relinquished Property: FMV(Sale Price) = $180,800; Mortgage paid off at closing = $48,641; Adjusted Basis: $38,410.

Replacement Property: FMV(Purchase Price) = $207,765; New Mortgage: $111,525;

Expenses incurred for the exchange: $15,688.

I am getting $20,321 in boot. Is this correct? The spreadsheet is taking the difference in equity ($36,009) and subtracting the expenses. ($36,009 - $15,688 = $20,321)

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
did you look to see if he took money out?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
also, without looking at a 1031 worksheet, do we have to know basis to answer this question?

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
HUD-1 from relinquished property shows $3,500 cash to seller. Also, funds to QI on same HUD-1 are $9,500 higher than amount applied to purchase of replacement property. I am told that client "took a little equity out of the exchange".

No, adjusted basis is not necessary to answer question.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
net cash received, non-like-kind property received, and net debt relief is boot rec'd

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
Somehow, your exchange worksheet has the input reversed. I agree that the boot received is $20,321 if there was a mutual assumption of mortgages and the fmv of the relinquished property was $207,765 with a mortgage of $111,525.

First of all, there was not a mutual assumption of mortgages, and secondly, the fmv of the relinquished property is not higher than the fmv of the replacement property.

If done properly, the exchange worksheet will show $51,697 in boot given.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
Riley - Thanks for your input.

If the selling price of the relinquished property is $180,800, the mortgage payoff is $48,641, the selling expenses are $15,688, then cash received from sale = $116,471. If $96,150 was paid toward purchase of replacement property, then $20,321 ($116,471 - $96,150) is net cash (boot) received. Is this not correct?

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

8 October 2008
cash received has a different meaning in a 1031, TP. it means cash actually 'touched' by the taxpayer.

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
Tpacct, in your example, the cash received from the other party to the exchange is zero.

In the context of Sec. 1031, cash received means cash received from the other party to the exchange -- not cash received from the bank. Example, if I exchange an unencumbered piece of land with an fmv of $90,000 for a piece of land with an fmv of $120,000 and a new loan of $120,000, I will receive $90,000 in cash at the close of escrow. However, I have actually given $30,000 to the other party to the exchange, resulting in a completely tax-deferrred exchange.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
This is not a two party exchange. The client sold one property and purchased, through a QI, another propety (a TIC). They actually received $13,000 - $3,500 at closing of the relinguished property and $9,500 refunded from the QI.

ReadMyLips (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
I went to a class recently and they used a "napkin test" that helped me understand easily, I will try to apply the test to your situation. There are two parts-the "value" test which requires that the replacement property purchase price equals or exceeds the relinquished property net sales price. The net sales price is $180,800-$15,688=$165,112 passes as the new property is $207,765. The second part is the "equity" test which requires that the proceeds from the relinquished property are used fully as a down payment for the replacement property. The net proceeds are $180,800 - $15,688 - $48,641 = $116,471. The funds used for the replacement property are $207,765 - $111,525 = $96,248 which is $20,231 less than the $116,471 required and is recognized boot gain.

TaxTools has a 1031 worksheet that works well if you haven't already tried it.

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
Tpacct, in your case the other party to the exchange is the QI.

ReadMyLips, the equity analysis involves looking a the net equities received and transferred. In the normal case, the net equity transferred to the other party to the exchange is the fair market value of the property since the other party to the exchange will ordinarily require that the encumbrances be extinguished prior to title transfer.

In other words, the net equity analysis is useful when there are assumptions of debt. If the original fact pattern involved mutual assumptions of existing debt, then there would indeed be $20,231 in boot. However, in this case, the taxpayer's debt load doubled, but he only walked away with $9,500.

Tax Tools is excellent; however, you must be able to distinguish between loan assumptions, loan pay-offs, and new loans.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
Riley - So therefore, because the relinquished mortgage was paid from sale proceeds, and the replacement mortgage was new debt, they are not considered in the boot calculation? Also, because the only cash received was from escrow or refunded from the QI, they are not taxable?

Also, in your example above, the $90,000 received at closing is not recognized?

To carry this one step further, the realized gain for my client would be $90,693 and the recognized gain would be $0?

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
Correct. The amount of boot received or given is not a function of the amounts of existing or new debt unless there are loan assumptions. For example, if I changed the fact pattern in my example so that I assume $120,000 of existing debt instead of taking out a new loan of $120,000, then I would by necessity receive $90,000 in cash from the other party to the exchange to equalize equities. In that case, I would have received $90,000 in cash from the other party to the exchange (QI) and I would recognize that amount of boot.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
Riley - Thank you very much for your input. Do you agree with my calcualtion of the realized gain and recognized gain amounts?

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
I agree that the recognized gain is zero. However, the realized gain seems too low. Should be $180,000 - 38,410 - 15,688 = 125,902.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
Why do you not consider the FMV of the property received in the calculation of the realized gain?

Incognito (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
There is no such concept as netting "cash" boot in a deferred exchange. Therefore, the "equity" test above (which is what Tax Tools is based on) will not always work.

See Example #2 at Reg § 1.1031(k)-1(j)(3). In this example, the exchanger receives $10,000 of cash boot at the time of the sale. He contributes the $10,000 later at the time of repurchasing the replacement property. The sale price of the relinquished property and the purchase price of the replacement property are both $100,000. Therefore, net equity of zero. However, the Regs state that the exchanger must recognize the $10,000 that he received as boot. If you input this example into the Like-Kind Exchange Worksheet in Tax Tools, the program shows that there is no gain.

Incognito (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
I am calculating recognized boot on your original question. However, I need more info.
  • How much cash passed through the QI?
  • Of the $15,688 of selling expenses, how much was incurred in each separate transaction?
  • Also, be sure that what you are calling selling expenses are not, in fact, boot. A proration of rent or property taxes is not a selling expense. This is boot.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
$105,650 went to the QI at closing of the relinquished property. Of this amount, $96,150 was applied to the purchase of the replacement property. The balance was returned to my client.

TM EA (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
I vote for the $20k of recognized gain. I heard at one point the boot netting rules. You recognize gain to the extent you receive boot.

Cash boot paid offsets Cash boot received Debt boot paid offsets Debt boot received Cash boot paid offsets Debt boot received Debt boot paid DOES NOT offset cash boot received

TM EA (talk|edits) said:

9 October 2008
None of my enter keystrokes seemed to work so my reply is unreadable. I don't know how to edit it. Any suggestions?

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

October 10, 2008
I also am coming up with the $20,231.

Boot netting is a carryover idea from Simultaneous Exchanges. The deferred exchange rules brought about the constructive receipt rules. And in those rules, you cannot undo the constructive receipt of Cash boot received.

The only boot netting allowed in the Deferred Exchange rules is (1) the netting of Debt boot received against Debt boot given and (2) the netting of Debt boot received against Cash boot given. But Cash Boot received cannot be netted against nothing. This is constructive recipt.

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

10 October 2008
No constructive receipt here as long as there was a QI and the standard QI safe-harbor language was used. See Reg § 1.1031(k)-1(g)(4)(ii).

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

10 October 2008
I would agree that boot netting would not be allowed if the safe-harbor language is absent (unlikely).

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

10 October 2008
TM - I believe if you hit enter twice, it will result in a space or space between lines.

FYI: I am using the worksheet from the book "An Accountant's Guide to Like-Kind Exchanges". Author is Gary Hoff, E.A. It was recommended by another poster here. It is available from the University of Illinois at http://www.taxschool.uiuc.edu/products.html#likekind.

Using this worksheet, I too keep coming up with a recognized gain of $20,321. The worksheet refers to this as "Cash received (to balance equities). The amount to "balance the equities" is $36,009. From this, it is deducting the "Expenses incurred for the exchange" or $15,688. It then treats this net amount as boot received.

Does anyone agree with the $90,693 of realized gain?

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

10 October 2008
Agree with the 20,631 gain if there were mutual assumption of mortgages.

Tpacct (talk|edits) said:

10 October 2008
Riley - Why do you not consider the FMV of the property received in the calculation of the realized gain?

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

October 10, 2008
My opinion is that debt boot & debt relief are calculated the same whether there is a loan assumption or not. See discussion of this issue at Discussion:Assumption_of_Mortgage_in_1031_Exchange-RILEY2?

ReadMyLips (talk|edits) said:

10 October 2008
Tpacct-I come up with $126,702 realized gain:

Sales price $180,800

Less Adj Basis $38,410

Less Exchange exp $15,688

Realized gain $126,702

PVVCPA (talk|edits) said:

October 23, 2008
Per Riley, "boot netting would not be allowed if the safe-harbor language is absent"

Riley, By this statement you are suggesting that boot-netting IS allowed provided the exchanger is using a QI and the safe-harbor language exists. Reg §1.1031(k)-1(f)(2) disagrees.

The taxpayer is in actual receipt of money or property at the time the taxpayer actually receives the money or property or receives the economic benefit of the money or property. The taxpayer is in constructive receipt of money or property at the time the money or property is credited to the taxpayer's account, set apart for the taxpayer, or otherwise made available so that the taxpayer may draw upon it...

Any cash boot that is paid directly to (or for the benefit of) the seller from the sales proceeds is the constructive receipt of boot. Classic examples of this is the use of sales proceeds to credit the buyer for rent prorations, security deposits & property taxes. Or the very common example of using the sales proceeds to pay the accrued interest on the mortgage.

Riley, you are suggesting that the exchanger can fix this by putting money back into the exchange. Impossible. Once received, this is boot.

Also, see Reg §1.1031(k)-1(g)(4)(vii).

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