Discussion:10% Penalty for Early Distribution of IRA-Medical Expense Exception

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Maverick (talk|edits) said:

28 April 2008
Facts: Husband, age 65, needs kidney transplant. Wife, age 54 has $400,000 Plus in IRA. Can wife receive Distribution of $150,000 to pay for medical expenses of husband (MFJ)and NOT be subject to 10% penalty (forget about 7 1/2% issue)? Section 72(t)2(b) addresses the employee (participant), not any dependent or spouse. I can find nothing in Regs, rulings, publications, announcements, cases. committee reports, etc. I can easily understand what makes common sense, but I am looking for some authoritative source. Your responce will be welcome and sincerely appreciated.

BEGooding (talk|edits) said:

April 28, 2008
I expect if medical expenses are otherwise allowable as a deduction on 1040 that taxpayer could claim the exception regardless of for whom the medical expenses are incurred. Form 5329 instructions say the exception #5 applies for "the amount you paid for unreimbursed medical expenses during the year minus 7.5% of your AGI". If it doesn't say you can't take it for wife paying for husbands medical than I say go for it.

Tyoungea (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
I have a client that received an early distribution from an annuity and has medical expenses for her husband who has cancer. The amount is over the 7.5% over their AGI so they qualify for the exception. (She is under 59 1/2). My question is: I use ProSeries and I have tried to fill out the 5329, but I'm having to override all my totals. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for any input.

Jdugancpa (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
I put in a dummy 1099-R for $10,000 with distribution code = 1. $1000 early withdrawal penalty appears. Then I went to Form 5329-T and put $10,000 on Line E of the "Smart Worksheet" following line 1 and the 10% penalty goes away. Give that a try.

Tyoungea (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
Thanks Jdugancpa, I think it is not going away is because when I bring up the 5329-T it has the incorrect taxpayer on there. It does nothing. Is there somewhere to link them?

Jdugancpa (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
5329-T is "Taxpayer". 5329-S is "Spouse".

Tyoungea (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
I guess that is a DAAAAAAAAAAAAA thing! Thanks so much!

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
But wait a minute, Form 5329 says payments from annuities will not qualify for this exception. Did I miss something?

Jdugancpa (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
You might be correct on that point. I don't know without looking.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

1 May 2008
I ran into this with a first time homebuyer too

Tyoungea (talk|edits) said:

2 May 2008
Yes, Death&Taxes you are correct, I did find out though that this was a 401K. Thanks for the help.

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